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To: js1138
I think I could make the case that many Freepers wouldn't consider Unitarians and Quakers to be Christians.

I had heard that some do not regard Unitarians and Quakers as Christians. Well, how do Unitarians and Quakers regard themselves?

Let’s see: What was the original proposition again? That Muslims are just as likely to be right as the Jews and Christians. It seems you have no opinion about that (at least none you’ve expressed). The only opinion you’ve expressed is that Christians (and Jews?) are wicked, blood-thirsty wholesale murderers. Moslems would agree with you on that proposition. It must be, then, that you side with the Moslems. So, it looks to be the case that you roam the halls of FR looking for a fight with Christians (and Jews?).

And it does, in fact, appear that you must misrepresent what I say in order to promote a fight.

601 posted on 08/11/2008 7:12:28 PM PDT by YHAOS
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To: YHAOS
Muslims are just as likely to be right as the Jews and Christians.

I didn't start the discussion of slavery, and I didn't start the discussion of how wicked the adherents of a religion can be.

I merely point out the the wickedness of religious adherents is proportional to the amount of worldly power they wield. You implied Christianity confers some special worldly moral force, and I point out this is nonsense.

602 posted on 08/11/2008 7:24:30 PM PDT by js1138
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To: YHAOS

Quakers, historically, are Christian. Unitarians, so far as historic trinitarianism is concerned, cannot be Christian.


604 posted on 08/11/2008 7:40:16 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain -- Those denying the War was Necessary Do NOT Support the Troops!)
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To: YHAOS; betty boop; marron; Quix; MHGinTN; Marysecretary
The only opinion you’ve expressed is that Christians (and Jews?) are wicked, blood-thirsty wholesale murderers. Moslems would agree with you on that proposition. It must be, then, that you side with the Moslems. So, it looks to be the case that you roam the halls of FR looking for a fight with Christians (and Jews?).

Seems to me that focusing angst on Christians is rather typical around here - and "out there" as well.

For instance, many religions have creation beliefs but the greatest number and loudest arguments are made against Christians. The Jews and Muslims are pretty much ignored along with all the others.

And often, despite what a Christian might say about the age of the universe, the anti-Christian raises a canned "belief" like a boxing bag, pounds at the inanimate thing a few times and declares himself victorious. Whoop-de-do, some battle that was.

Likewise in the above Noah Flood sidebar, the presumption has been made not once, not twice, but three times that my beliefs are what the correspondents say they are, not what I say. Again with the boxing bag instead of the live correspondent - and no attempt to argue against Jewish beliefs or flood myths in other cultures.

Nope, all the angst is directed squarely at Christianity per se - or perhaps, the anti-Christian's concept of Christianity.

Bottom line, such debates are rarely about the actual issues but a posturing between spirits pro-Christ and anti-Christ.

Perhaps the boxing bag is because we have the upper hand? After all, the words of God are spirit and life. The words of men are neither spirit nor life.

For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. - Hebrews 4:12

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. - John 6:63

To God be the glory!

613 posted on 08/11/2008 10:44:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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