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To: Hemorrhage
Perhaps so. So, you don’t like Warren’s arguments — and that causes you to claim some Protestant debaters (theologians?) are shallow? By that logic, any religion’s theology is only as good as its worst proponent.

There are also quite a few illogical and weakly-supported Catholic “theologians” defending your faith. Do they define Catholic theology? Could we not equally say some Catholic theology is weak, liberal, and poorly contrived?

I don't think that it follows that a theology is only as strong as its weakest advocate. First, Catholic theology is very much defined and falls within a tradition and a given structure. As does Calvinism, Anglicanism, Lutheranism, etc. A weak theologian simply does not add to the well. Second, I never said Protestant theologians are shallow - I said the theology is shallow.

“Purpose Driven” Protestantism isn’t a denomination of Protestantism. I don’t know any Warrenians — though I do know several people that read the book. A couple are Baptists, a couple are Methodists, and one is non-denominational Protestant. None are shallow Christians.

I've read his book. I've checked out the What We Believe section of his church's website. A Christian group with a set of beliefs *is* a Christian denomination. Now, it isn't Methodist, Calvinist, Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist...but it has to be something. Whatever his denomination is, as expounded by his book, has a shallow theology. Again, I've never claimed he was a shallow person, or a shallow Christian, or any such ad hominem.

77 posted on 06/23/2008 4:58:24 PM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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To: thefrankbaum
I've read his book. I've checked out the What We Believe section of his church's website. A Christian group with a set of beliefs *is* a Christian denomination. Now, it isn't Methodist, Calvinist, Lutheran, Anglican, Baptist...but it has to be something. Whatever his denomination is, as expounded by his book, has a shallow theology.

Do you think a Purpose Driven Life is meant to be a tome of theology? Do you think a "what we believe" section of a church website is meant to represent every facet of a church's theology? Do you think there is any reason why there should be a set of basic principles listed by a church before going into church doctrine and deeper theological issues?

Maybe you believe that before someone sets foot in a church, they should read the enire Bible, and throw in a couple of commentaries on each passage while you're at it?

79 posted on 06/23/2008 5:49:01 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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