You really are clueless aren't you? In a two body system there is no difference between one body spinning in relation to the other body or one body orbiting a stationary body. Your merry go round experiment conclusion was wrong and you seemed to have no comprehension of Zeno's paradox even though it was exactly the problem you were having with determining location and velocity at the same time.
If you are unwilling to learn, I am unwilling to try and teach you. Life is too short. It is hard in this medium anyway.
Can you please help me understand what happened? Does your worldview permit white lies or "unintended deceptions" as long as nobody gets seriously hurt? Mine doesn't.
You seem unable or unwilling to try and grasp simple concepts that disagree with your world view. My example was simple, is the sun where it appears to be when you look at it? Or is it ahead of where it appears to be? You seem to think that it is where it appears to be, you are wrong.
I encourage you to keep studying physics, though. They really are a fascinating and fun topic. I'll be glad to try to explain things if you have any questions or things that don't make sense. I'm no genius to be sure, but I'm willing to help to the small degree that I may be able to.
Thanks. I will be sure to look you up if I have any questions : )
Oh dear, what a horrible error on your part. Foucault's Pendulum.
My example was simple, is the sun where it appears to be when you look at it? Or is it ahead of where it appears to be? You seem to think that it is where it appears to be, you are wrong.
You've entrenched yourself in geocentrism. The sun's present apparent angular position, x(t) is 8 minutes ahead of the position it was at 8 minutes ago when it emitted the light you now see. x(t - 8 + 8) = x(t), i.e., the sun is where mrjesse says it is.
My familiarity with the movement of things caused me to not mentally fall for the bad trickster logic in Zeno's turtle paradox. The bad logic of course is that the faster runner has to stop every time he reaches each goal.
Your merry go round experiment conclusion was wrong
How as my merry go round experiment conclusion wrong?
If the earth's rotation of 2.13 degrees per 8.5 minutes causes a 2.13 degree lag between the actual and the apparent angle of the sun, why would the merry go around with a rotation of 180 degrees per 8.5 minutes not cause a lag of 180 degrees between the actual position of the sun and the apparent position? What if the earth turned 180 degrees every 8.5 minutes? Would we have sun at the day and just the sun's gravity skyward at night?
If you are unwilling to learn, I am unwilling to try and teach you.
I'm perfectly willing, even eager, to learn why the sun's apparent location would lag its real position by 2.13 degrees.. Again, do you believe that if the earth rotated at 180 degrees per 8.5 minutes, that the gravity meter of the sun would point 180 out from the apparent position?
You seem unable or unwilling to try and grasp simple concepts that disagree with your world view.
Well, there are a ton of incorrect ideas being marketed in the marketplace of ideas. Anybody who takes as fact something that they do not understand and cannot see demonstrated for themselves runs the risk of believing as fact a bunch of incorrect stuff.
The lag of the apparent angle of the sun doesn't have anything to do with my worldview as far as I know (Some stuff does - but not this one) but rather it just doesn't make scientific sense.
My example was simple, is the sun where it appears to be when you look at it? Or is it ahead of where it appears to be? You seem to think that it is where it appears to be, you are wrong.
I unquestionably do think that the sun is where it appears to be - at least for an observer on the earth. And you can quote me on that (as long as you include a date. It may be that you will convince me otherwise. And I'll let you know if you do.)
It's one thing to say I'm wrong (And I well may be, so I welcome the proof thereof) but it's an entirely different (and much more useful) thing to demonstrate how I'm wrong rather then just saying I'm wrong. Anybody can say of anybody else "You're wrong." But saying so neither makes it so nor proves it to be true.
Here's another merry go around experiment. Let me ask you this:
If I am on a merry go around, and it's turning, and there is a pulsing water jet and laser (which pulse in unison) both pointing at the center of the merry go around. The pulse rate and turn rate of the merry go around are such that no water pulse overlaps the life of the previous, and the merry go around turns 1/4 of a turn in the time it takes the leading edge of a water pulse to reach the center of the merry go around.
Now it's a warm day and I'm sitting in the middle of the merry go around, with a good water proof compass. The water jet and laser are exactly north, 20 feet, of the center of the merry go around.
Will I not find that every time either light or water hits me that it will be coming exactly from the north?
Logical answers would be "Yes, No, or Yes but this doesn't carry over to the situation with the sun and its apparent position."
I'd also still like to know what was wrong with my other merry go around conclusion. How does it not perfectly emulate the rotation of the earth while being bathed in the suns light -- except just faster?
Thanks!
-Jesse