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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; LeGrande
mrjesse, did you get the impression that LeGrande has been talking about waves of space-time and how everything is waves of space-time?

Ethan Clive Osgoode,

I think he mentioned space-time a couple times in regards to gravity, but I thought he's been talking about waves of nothing, trying to carry the concept of mechano-kinetic water-waves over into the realm of Electro Magnetic Waves.

If I'm understanding him correctly, he'll proceed to then say that space and time are just theoretical constructs which do not actually exist, or something.

But I'd say that he has a desire for the universe to have come into existence out of absolutely nothing by only natural process.

He said"QM is based on waves of nothing, it is the most accurate theory that we have and it may explain the origins of the Universe."(Emph. Mine.)

So I can see why he would argue for all matter being waves of nothing.

As to Quantum Mechanics being based on waves of nothing, I'm not so sure. My understanding and experience with QM is unquestionably primitive, but what he says here does not make sense with the small understanding I do have of QM. For its namesake, quantum of course refers to the indivisible sizes of things - for example electrons. Can't get a half of an electron. I think my power company gips me an electron every month because I'm sure they round up.

Does that answer your question, or did I misunderstand?

-Jesse

459 posted on 06/30/2008 11:55:18 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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To: mrjesse
I think he mentioned space-time a couple times in regards to gravity, but I thought he's been talking about waves of nothing,

It seems he offered "waves of Space-time" as a bit of soothing word-salad dressing for "nothing", because "we are made of nothing" was a bit harsh on my ears:

"there is no single experiment that proves that we are all made of nothing. I don't think that is your real question though. You are disagreeing with the conclusion. How about if I said that we are made up of waves of Space-time. Does that help you?"
If I'm understanding him correctly, he'll proceed to then say that space and time are just theoretical constructs which do not actually exist, or something.

Or maybe he's just using "waves of Space-time" as a synonym or placeholder for "nothing", as in the above quote. But then we have the following

"Waves of nothing is Space-time."
Which should make one pause. Think about it. "Nothing" is "waves of Space-time", and "waves of nothing" is "Space-time." Is it not worth pondering this?

As to Quantum Mechanics being based on waves of nothing, I'm not so sure.

You pointed out that "he's... trying to carry the concept of mechano-kinetic water-waves over into the realm of Electro Magnetic Waves" which leads him to waves of nothing in EM, while carrying that same kind of mechanical-ether reasoning over to the realm of QM leads him to waves of nothing there too.

But I think the real problem is much more fundamental, and all the hot air about geodesics and quantum magical-mystery tours is just dust thrown in people's faces. The real problem is the inability to see that this:

1. something is X
2. X is nothing
therefore,
3. something is nothing
is an invalid argument.
460 posted on 07/01/2008 2:31:35 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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