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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The Stern-Gerlach experiment proves that particles have intrinsic quantum numbers, eg, intrinsic angular momentum or spin. However, the other poster, by reasonings unknown, derives from this result, that matter is made of "waves of nothing."

You are trying to lump different posts together. Show me where I said that I can derive "waves of nothing" from the Stern-Gerlach experiment.

We might as well conclude that everything is nothing, and nothing exist. So, the Stern-Gerlach experiment proves that neither you nor I nor the other poster exists. See? That's Science. How can you argue with Science?

Since you are trying to improperly lump my posts together, you should also recall that I said that that matter is an emergent property of those waves of nothing. I am certainly not claiming that nothing exists.

406 posted on 06/28/2008 7:27:24 AM PDT by LeGrande
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To: LeGrande
I said that that matter is an emergent property of those waves of nothing. I am certainly not claiming that nothing exists

Of course you are not saying it because you know as well as anyone else here that it is absurd, and we would just laugh at you if you said it directly. But one can reasonably infer it from what you say, like so:

Matter is a property of waves of nothing
Waves of nothing are made of nothing
ergo,
Matter is a property of nothing
Everything is made of matter
ergo,
Everything is made of properties of nothing
Ergo,
Nothing exists.

408 posted on 06/28/2008 7:41:12 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: LeGrande
I said that that matter is an emergent property of those waves of nothing.

In post 405 you go a little further and imply that matter is actually made of nothing:

"As you well know, there is no single experiment that proves that we are all made of nothing. I don't think that is your real question though. You are disagreeing with the conclusion."
Is this correct?
409 posted on 06/28/2008 7:52:29 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Darwinism!)
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To: LeGrande; Ethan Clive Osgoode
LeGrande said to Ethan Clive Osgoode: You are trying to lump different posts together. Show me where I said that I can derive "waves of nothing" from the Stern-Gerlach experiment.

I too had the same impression -- that you were saying that Stern-Gerlach experiment supported "Waves of nothing."

Must have been the way things flowed in the conversation or the way you worded things.

It might have been because I was asking about what things you took as faith and what you knew to be fact.

So "waves of nothing" -- is that a matter of faith for you, or how can I demonstrate it for myself? You seem to be using as a foundation for many of your arguments this idea that all matter is waves of nothing, if I understand correctly. (Or at least that's what it always seems to boil down to.)

Thanks,

-Jesse

414 posted on 06/28/2008 7:48:39 PM PDT by mrjesse (Could it be true? Imagine, being forgiven, and having a cause, greater then yourself, to live for!)
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