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To: LeGrande
"No but they often are. People of the book run the gamut from very intelligent and learned to deliberately ignorant." [excerpt]
That is true of everybody, Atheists included.

"It primarily depends on the definition of 'God.' The problem is that it is impossible to prove a negative. The most surprising realization came when I discovered that there are no clear prophecies that have been fulfilled. I had a fortune telling grandmother that did a better job than any prophecy I have ever read. I would think that the primary purpose of God would be to predict the future." [excerpt]
I agree that it is impossible to disprove a negative.
So the statement 'there are no clear prophecies that have been fulfilled' seems to be the logical fallacy of proving a negative.
Just because we might 'think that the primary purpose of God would be to predict the future', does not make it true.

"The bottom line though is that it is impossible to predict the future. If there was someone out there who could consistently and accurately predict the future I probably would believe in God : ) There isn't and has never been someone like that." [excerpt]
So if a man could predict the future you would probably believe in God?
What about the prophets recorded in the bible?
Are you proving the nonexistence of future prophets sent by God?

377 posted on 06/25/2008 4:28:16 PM PDT by Fichori (Primitive goat herder.)
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To: Fichori
I agree that it is impossible to disprove a negative. So the statement 'there are no clear prophecies that have been fulfilled' seems to be the logical fallacy of proving a negative.

No a prophecy is definitive. It is a prediction that can be falsified. It either is or isn't, if it isn't it is falsified. What is so hard about that to understand?

Just because we might 'think that the primary purpose of God would be to predict the future', does not make it true.

True, why don't you define God so that we can quit going around in circles?

So if a man could predict the future you would probably believe in God? What about the prophets recorded in the bible?

Aren't prophets men? Isn't that how God speaks to man, through Prophets? Can you provide a single, clear definitive prophecy that has come to pass? Wouldn't that be a prerequisite for a prophet?

Are you proving the nonexistence of future prophets sent by God?

Based on the nonexistence of prophets in the past, yes.

378 posted on 06/25/2008 5:50:07 PM PDT by LeGrande
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