[Coyoteman]

I know the reason you don’t want to admit that the evolution of life is part of evolutionary theory is because you can’t defend the origination of life from non-living matter. However, that’s what IS part of evolutionary dogma. Nonetheless, if you’re so smart, tell me: How did life come about? Did it evolve out of non-living molecules, or was it created by God?

Doesn't matter if it was one of these, or aliens. The theory of evolution works just fine in any case -- because the theory of evolution does not include origins no matter how many times creationists claim it does!

[Electro]

Can’t answer it, can you?

Furthermore, evolution doesn’t work from the point of the supposed Big Bang or any point thereafter!

[YHAOS]

”The theory of evolution works just fine in any case”

I always thought so. At least according to everything related by the wisemen of science who do now, or did previously, inhabit this forum.

” -- because the theory of evolution does not include origins no matter how many times creationists claim it does!”

I wasn’t aware that the UC Berkeley campus was infested with Creationists (Marxists/Socialists, yes, but not Creationists). It must be the case however, if we are to believe the Berkeley website “From soup to cells – the origin of life”, under their general heading “evolution 101” and further billed as “your one-stop source for information on evolution.” http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/origsoflife_01

It’s not uncommon for people to sculpt their tale to fit their audience. Nor is it uncommon that the tale may differ markedly from one venue to another. But it’s a rather disappointing tactic to see practiced by people who tout their invincible integrity and steadfast dedication only to the facts as they are presently best known.

You need to inform the good folks at Berkeley of their profound error in linking the origin of life to the TOE. You might also suggest that they notify the other universities who list the Berkeley website as a reference on their own evolution websites. Otherwise there must be rather a large number of people who have concluded that, despite what they say contrarily, many scientists and other academics are actually convinced that speculation on the origin of life is inevitably infused and informed by the Theory of Evolution.

This may be the reason why you have so much trouble convincing Creationists that the TOE does not include the origins of life. It may be that many Creationists are inclined to believe all these University websites rather than your assurances to the contrary.