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To: papertyger

So do you or do you not deny that the Roman church was a corrupt political oligarchy at the time of The Reformation?


9,885 posted on 06/28/2008 7:18:31 PM PDT by gost2
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To: gost2

Formulated the way you have, presuming you are referring to the Catholic Church, there’s no need to deny it. It’s false.


9,886 posted on 06/28/2008 7:22:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: gost2
So do you or do you not deny that the Roman church was a corrupt political oligarchy at the time of The Reformation?

I deny the question has any more bearing on the rectitude of the reformers actions than David's anointing had on reign of Saul.

9,900 posted on 06/28/2008 7:42:54 PM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: gost2
For an brief, intelligent account of the Refomraiton from an RC POV, I cannot recommend enough:

Adam, Karl; Roots of the Reformation, Coming HOme Resources, Zanesville, Ohio, 2000 - but from lectures given in 1947.

Short answer: There was a LOT of corruption going on.

9,907 posted on 06/28/2008 8:38:54 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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