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To: roamer_1; Quix; OLD REGGIE; Marysecretary
One who would diminish the Holy Word diminishes the very contract that gives him life. He diminishes the Covenants which, given by God Himself to mankind, instruct us in what is pleasing to God, what is required by God, and the warnings He gives to those who refuse to live according to His will.

What man has the right to add to or subtract from the very words of Almighty Jehovah? Who would think to make them null? Who would not call them holy beyond all things on earth? No mortal man has that authority, and the only Man who does have that authority would not do so, as He said.

AMEN!

The RCC seems to nullify the very reason God gave us the Scriptures -- to guide us in all truth and love. The RCC takes this gift of God, made sure and fast by the black and white written word of God, the "sword of the Spirit," and transmutes it into the changing, ever morphing, quixotic opinions of men and magisteriums.

"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." -- Romans 10:12-17


9,814 posted on 06/28/2008 1:06:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The RCC seems to nullify the very reason God gave us the Scriptures -- to guide us in all truth and love.

Christ gave us the Catholic Church and the Holy Scriptures to guide us all in truth and love.

The RCC takes this gift of God, made sure and fast by the black and white written word of God, the "sword of the Spirit," and transmutes it into the changing, ever morphing, quixotic opinions of men and magisteriums.

Too bad for the RCC, whatever that is.

The Catholic Church brings us the whole of Revelation: Scripture and Tradition:

II. THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN TRADITION AND SACRED SCRIPTURE

One common source. . .
80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".41
. . . two distinct modes of transmission
81 "Sacred Scripture is the speech of God as it is put down in writing under the breath of the Holy Spirit."42
"And [Holy] Tradition transmits in its entirety the Word of God which has been entrusted to the apostles by Christ the Lord and the Holy Spirit. It transmits it to the successors of the apostles so that, enlightened by the Spirit of truth, they may faithfully preserve, expound and spread it abroad by their preaching."43
82 As a result the Church, to whom the transmission and interpretation of Revelation is entrusted, "does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence."44
Apostolic Tradition and ecclesial traditions
83 The Tradition here in question comes from the apostles and hands on what they received from Jesus' teaching and example and what they learned from the Holy Spirit. The first generation of Christians did not yet have a written New Testament, and the New Testament itself demonstrates the process of living Tradition.

Tradition is to be distinguished from the various theological, disciplinary, liturgical or devotional traditions, born in the local churches over time. These are the particular forms, adapted to different places and times, in which the great Tradition is expressed. In the light of Tradition, these traditions can be retained, modified or even abandoned under the guidance of the Church's Magisterium.

9,817 posted on 06/28/2008 1:55:52 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***The RCC seems to nullify the very reason God gave us the Scriptures — to guide us in all truth and love.***

Calvin and the WCF gives us a theology of hate and death. Where is the truth and love in the Reformed?


10,073 posted on 06/29/2008 4:20:15 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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