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To: papertyger; Alex Murphy; blue-duncan; Boagenes; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...
Because
the Bible
alone
is
insufficient
guidance
for living
the Christian life.

WOW. Talk about living dangerously.

2 Timothy 3:16 (AMPLIFIED)
Every Scripture is God-breathed (given by His inspiration) and profitable for instruction, for reproof and conviction of sin, for correction of error and discipline in obedience, [and] for training in righteousness (in holy living, in conformity to God's will in thought, purpose, and action), 17So that the man of God may be complete and proficient, well fitted and thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Technically, the outrageous statement above might be defended as worded. The Living Word Christ Jesus and His Holy Spirit lead us into all truth . . . not 'just' ink on wood pulp. Though, interestingly, there are many cases where the Bible has been the only thing not burned to a crisp in a house fire.

However, the meaning most certainly indicated by context and a long line of such statements hereon is that Scripture MUST HAVE the Magicsterical and !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! to be of any trust-worthy/lasting value.

!THAT!
idolatrous
notion
IS
OUTRAGEOUSLY
!!!!WRONG!!!!
!!!!WRONG!!!!
!!!!WRONG!!!!

I’m convinced in my bones, my spirit and from hard personal experience . . . that in the next 1-7 years . . .
SOME
RC’s (as well as some Prottys—though it seems like more RC’s beg for it more often and more outrageously)
Will be put in situations where NONE OF THE OLD RELIGIOUS STUFF will work—at all.

1. None of the rituals will work.
2. None of the focus on Mary will work.
3. None of the prayers to Mary will work.
4. None of the beyond-Scripture dogma will work.

5. None of the INSTITUTIONAL prescriptions, solutions, explanations, constructions on reality will work.
6. None of the prayers to anyone but God, Son, Spirit will work.

7. None of the talismans will work.
8. None of the INSTITUTIONALLY SUGGESTED/PROVIDED AND SANCTIONED LINUS BLANKETS will work.

9. None of the INSTITUTIONALLY CONCOCTED FANTASIES will avail anything emotionally, spiritually nor tangibly.
10. None of the INSTITUTIONALLY PROFFERED CHECK-LISTS will avail anything.

11. NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD AND THE WORD OF GOD THROUGH CHRIST AND HIS SPIRIT WILL AVAIL ANYTHING.
12. GOD WILL HAVE A PURIFIED CHURCH. HE ALONE is able to purify it. HE WILL HAVE UNITY. HE ALONE is able to bring unity and it will NOT be according to any one group's preconceived notions or even according to their truly kosher Biblical sensibilties. God will be doing some new things.

Each individual so lovingly disciplined/instructed by The Lord, will be uniquely pressed into their own tailor-made fiery furnace. Whether they are then around others or truly alone—they will be alone existentially in their fiery furnace in at least a list of ways and respects.

Their only hope will be as the prophet to take the attitude: WOE IS ME—I AM A MAN/PERSON OF UNCLEAN LIPS . . . Confession, repentance, forgiveness of all . . . forsaking of ALL . . . as in A L L other than God ALONE will be REQUIRED. And that’s just to get started toward relief, solution, hope, help, release from the fiery furnace.

The House Cleansing beginning with the House of God—ALL THOSE WHO CLAIM HIS NAME—is all set to begin at a new level, depth, comprehensiveness, intensity. Some have never experienced such a level of God’s piercing search-light of His Spirit.

1. ALL WOOD, HAY, STUBBLE WILL BE FOREFEIT—and quickly seen by the remotely wise and awake as poison, deadly.
2. EVERYTHING beyond GOD AND GOD ALONE will be seen as WOOD, HAY, STUBBLE.

3. ABANDONMENT TO GOD AND GOD ALONE will take on an infinitely more robust meaning and understanding than ever before.
4. Even kosher; even fitting Biblical; even the Good will, in some cases, and specifics be seen in that individual’s life and situation at the time to be deadly, wood, hay, stubble. Some treasured ‘stuff’ will have to be forsaken ostensibly, forever—certainly for the rest of this natural life—however long or short. As Oswald Chambers and others have noted—the GOOD is the enemy of the BEST. And many will experience God’s winepress and furnace working to bring out HIS BEST—IN—AND THROUGH THEM.

5. That utterly requires GOD AND GOD ALONE to be THE SUPREME AND ALL ENCOMPASSING, ALL CONSUMING FOCUS.
6. I’m nothing. I’m less than nothing in a list of ways. I’m a scratchy, prickly wail in the wilderness—to many. Nevertheless, I, myself, have BEEN FORCED, at times, to step back and stand in awe at some of what God has said and done through me. I have 0% doubt that I will see in eternity the very emphatic fulfillment of these words and their impacts on however many lives. Not by might, not by power but by His Spirit. He knows how flawed I am. Whatever He does vis a vis all the above will be totally HIS doing. I just know what I feel and I know the flack the enemy has given the writing of this.

7. I’m not normally that fond of roller coasters. They are too jerky, disconcerting. I can imagine a smooth fun version but I’ve never been on such so I tend to avoid them. However, all my sensors and all the sensors of so many I respect in such matters are increasingly asserting with deeper and more intense conviction than they’ve ever felt before that the E-TICKET ride is close at hand and far closer than ever before. I think they are right. I feel that they are right. I just know that there’s been a huge shift in all the nuances and other discernable, observable clues toward such a change, set of events.

8. It’s a small matter if anyone mocks or satirizes me. I tend to enjoy such exchanges more than anything—they tend to be more real and less phony. I love that candid authenticity, realness. However, TO THE DEGREE THAT God is speaking through these humble fingers in this post—TO THAT DEGREE—mocking HIS message TO WHOMEVER is reading will not bring a comforting result in THAT life. Again, personally, feel free—mock me if that floats your boat and IF you are convinced that God doesn’t care about your doing so. Feel free to mock anything about me, including this message—IF you are absolutely 100% convinced that God has nothing to do with it. However, if you are wrong . . . expect some added study time after school—if there’s sufficient left-over mercy for such a grace.

It’s interesting . . . the last collection of prophecies I sent around . . . about the looming quake in California etc. . . . I usually . . . as in virtually always, to my memory, get 2-5 replies and comments. I think I must have gotten close to 2 dozen via FREEPMAIL/EMAIL. That’s a huge difference.

A lot of folks—many not normally given to sharing such things or even having such feelings, thoughts, dreams, visions—some who have never had such before—individuals are noting that they, too, sense that the gears of change are grinding more and more inexorably; more and more intensely; more and more dramatically. SOMETHING HUGE . . . PROBABLY SEVERAL HUGE THINGS . . . ARE ON THE NEAR TO VERY NEAR HORIZON.

So . . . I guess one could consider this merely as a . . . humble word to the wise. The rest virtually always refuse to listen, anyway. God have mercy on us all.

9,547 posted on 06/27/2008 7:44:09 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix

NGR invoked, automatically.


9,550 posted on 06/27/2008 7:53:30 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Quix
However, the meaning most certainly indicated by context and a long line of such statements hereon is that Scripture MUST HAVE the Magicsterical and !!!!TRADITIONS!!!! to be of any trust-worthy/lasting value.

Yup. That about sums it up.

Sorry about the outrage, but I've got to please God, and not men.

Perhaps all that outrage you keep expressing might show you your need for the fruit of the Spirit.

9,552 posted on 06/27/2008 8:10:29 PM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: Quix

Wasn’t that something? What blasphemy.


9,609 posted on 06/27/2008 8:49:48 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix

Good luck with that feller. I’m quite confident that the RCC is the best manifestation of Christ’s church that has ever or will ever exist on this big blue marble.


9,631 posted on 06/27/2008 9:09:51 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Quix

What glorious hope—to have all my stubble burned away!


9,696 posted on 06/28/2008 7:26:22 AM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: Quix; papertyger
Because the Bible alone is insufficient guidance for living the Christian life.

Although I probably would have probably not used those words, it is a very, very VALID point.

If the Bible ALONE were purely adequate without having the Church to provide the proper interpretation of the Revelation of God, then we would not have so many different sects out there, all of whom claim to have the proper understanding of the meaning and application of the Scriptures, none of whom agree fully upon what that meaning is.

Without an authority, we do not end up with one body, we end up with confusion, yet God is not a God of confusion but of peace. (1 Cor 14:33) Without an authority, who are any of us to say that even a perverse interpretation of the scriptures, such as the Jeremiah Wright version of the Bible, is not right? You may claim that the Holy Ghost gives you the authority, but I'd bet I could find somebody who disagrees with you but believes in Sola Scriptura just as strongly...and believes that the Holy Ghost says he's right!

Sola Scriptura is absolutely unscriptural.

The words of Our Lord testify to this themselves:

John 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.

To whom was He speaking there? The discourse began in John 13...the last supper. With whom was He speaking? The 12. This wasn't the Sermon on the Mount, where He spoke to thousands. And just think about it: if this promise was to all, then there would be NO divisions. All of us would be speaking from the same page. But it wasn't.

 

Then think about St. Paul's constant preaching to the particular churches. He constantly taught that they should get back to the Truth. If the Holy Ghost were to guide ALL into the Truth, there would be no need for him to do so. They would automatically do so. Why were there cautions about false teachers? Because some would take people away from the Truth and lead them into error.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own likings, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander into myths.

I pray for you people constantly, praying that God will enlighten your hearts so that you can follow Whom you so earnestly seek. I pray that the deceit that you have taken to heart as the Truth will be revealed to you for what it is. I thank God for the Truth that you do have. And I pray that God will open your hearts and your eyes so that you can experience ALL the Truth.

2 Pet 3:15-16 So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.

As St. Paul said to the Catholic Church in Ephesus,

Eph 1:16-23 I do not cease to give thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers, that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of him, having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and what is the immeasurable greatness of his power in us who believe, according to the working of his great might which he accomplished in Christ when he raised him from the dead and made him sit at his right hand in the heavenly places, far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come; and he has put all things under his feet and has made him the head over all things for the church, which is his body, the fulness of him who fills all in all.

9,704 posted on 06/28/2008 7:58:39 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: Joya

ping to the post you were asking about.


9,890 posted on 06/28/2008 7:28:25 PM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: Quix
11. NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD AND THE WORD OF GOD THROUGH CHRIST AND HIS SPIRIT WILL AVAIL ANYTHING.

Amen.

10,135 posted on 06/29/2008 10:51:39 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christus)
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