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To: wmfights
I think a clear case can be made that Mary really didn't understand who Jesus was until the resurrection. She was a good faithful mom who worried about her child, but if she knew Jesus was God incarnate why would she berate him when he stayed at the Temple. Why would she come with his step brothers to take him home after he started his ministry? IOW, she never displayed any extraordinary knowledge or abilities.

Amen. Seems obvious to anyone who reads the Scriptures.

Three of the four Gospels have Jesus chastising a believer who seeks to elevate His mother above those who possess faith in Him. All believers are the equal of His mother.

If Catholics would simply read the Gospel they might better understand the Gospel, God willing.

6,618 posted on 06/17/2008 3:57:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Three of the four Gospels have Jesus chastising a believer who seeks to elevate His mother above those who possess faith in Him.

Nope. That's a gross misinterpretation of the Greek. You claim what you want, I'm relying on Strong's.

6,649 posted on 06/17/2008 4:19:26 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Three of the four Gospels have Jesus chastising a believer who seeks to elevate His mother above those who possess faith in Him. All believers are the equal of His mother.

The hard part to understand is it is right there in front of their eyes and yet they don't see it. Until I started reading these threads I had no idea how different their beliefs and mine are. I do pray for the lost. I do preach The Gospel. I don't think there is anything else I can do for them.

6,689 posted on 06/17/2008 5:06:04 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***Three of the four Gospels have Jesus chastising a believer who seeks to elevate His mother above those who possess faith in Him. All believers are the equal of His mother.***

You wouldn’t happen to have those three verses handy would you?


6,697 posted on 06/17/2008 5:19:39 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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