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To: Dr. Eckleburg

***”What saith the Scriptures?

Read the Scriptures, Mark. Christ said repeatedly...***

You mean like this?

John 19:
24
So they said to one another, “Let’s not tear it, but cast lots for it to see whose it will be,” in order that the passage of scripture might be fulfilled (that says): “They divided my garments among them, and for my vesture they cast lots.” This is what the soldiers did.

If we look at the timeline, first came the OT, then came Christ (from whence came the Gospels) and then came the rest of the NT. Perhaps there is some difficulty in understanding the sequence of events that I can help with.


6,299 posted on 06/16/2008 3:45:18 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg
If we look at the timeline, first came the OT, then came Christ (from whence came the Gospels) and then came the rest of the NT. Perhaps there is some difficulty in understanding the sequence of events that I can help with.

Finally! I have found the expert to explain "confusing Scripture.

Please explain the following to me:

Douay Rheims Psalms 68 (69 in most Bibles) Introduction
"Salvum me fac, Deus. Christ in his passion declareth the greatness of his sufferings, and the malice of his persecutors the Jews; and foretelleth their reprobation."

(Establishes Psalm 68 (DR) recognizes the passage is about Jesus.)

Psalms 69: (NAB)
[9] I have become an outcast to my kin, a stranger to my mother's children.

Footnote 1: [Psalm 69] A lament complaining of suffering in language both metaphorical (Psalm 69:2-3 ; 15-16 the waters of chaos) and literal (Psalm 69:4, 5, 9, 11-13, exhaustion, alienation from family and community, false accusation). In the second part the psalmist prays with special emphasis that the enemies be punished for all to see (Psalm 69:23-29 ). Despite the pain, the psalmist does not lose hope that all be set right, and promises public praise (Psalm 69:30-36 ). The psalm, which depicts the suffering of the innocent just person vividly, is cited often by the New Testament especially in the passion accounts, e.g., Psalm 69:5 in John 15:25 ; Psalm 69:22 in Mark 15:23 , 36 and parallels and in John 19:29 . The psalm prays not so much for personal vengeance as for public vindication of God's justice. There was, at this time, no belief in an afterlife where such vindication could take place. Redress had to take place now, in the sight of all.

Please note Psalms 69:9 is to be taken literally.

John 7:

[5] For his brothers did not believe in him.

Catholic Bibles (which cannot be in error) establishes Psalms 69 concerns Christ and "my mothers children".

John 7:5 concerns His brothers who did not believe in Him.

His mothers children?

6,481 posted on 06/17/2008 9:51:30 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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