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To: Marysecretary
Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church [τους πρεσβυτερους της εκκλησιας]
[note he does NOT say any sanctified Tom, Dick, or Harriet but the elders of the church] [of course, this is the same guy who says that there shouldn't be many teachers among us, while some Protestants think each of them is a teacher, pretty much with the results of which James warns us],
and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord,; and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, [please note that it does NOT specify that he will be saved from his illness] and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven.
So yeah, as a matter of fact, not only laying on of hands but also anointing by elders is practiced in the Catholic Church. Sometimes we have services devoted to the Sacrament of Healing. Before my foot surgery last year I was anointed.

I have seen miracles. They do not pass protestant muster because the Protestant canon for determining miracles is, "If it's reported by a Catholic it didn't happen."

Tra la. God is great and He heals.

6,055 posted on 06/16/2008 10:20:58 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Marysecretary
So yeah, as a matter of fact, not only laying on of hands but also anointing by elders is practiced in the Catholic Church.

True. Not common but it does happen, possibly as frequently as among Protestants.

I attended a healing service at the Lasallette Shrine (now defunct) in Ipswitch, Mass. some 20 some odd years ago. I had a partial paralysis in one leg which medical professionials said could not be corrected. Unfortunately it was not healed but I was, and still am, greatly impressed with the participating Nuns and Priests, their evident holiness and sincerity is still with me.

I have seen miracles. They do not pass protestant muster because the Protestant canon for determining miracles is, "If it's reported by a Catholic it didn't happen."

I am pleased that I am not listed among those nasty "Protestants". On the other hand I have never seen no longer needed artificial limbs hanging among the no longer needed crutches.

Now that would be a miracle which could not be denied as a possible "spontaneous remission" wouldn't it?

6,146 posted on 06/16/2008 11:54:54 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know no thing.)
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To: Mad Dawg

And there are people who are given the gift of healing who are NOT elders of the church.

I’ve been to retreats put on by the Catholic church (yes, believe it or not) and there were priests who had the healing anointing. This was back in the 70’s when the charismatic movement hit the Catholic Church.

I’ve never said they didn’t pass muster because Catholics did it. I doubt any one here even thinks that, Mad Dawg. I wonder if any HERE believed in the gifts of the HS. Do any practice them? I’m interested in knowing that, sincerely.


6,168 posted on 06/16/2008 12:17:37 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Mad Dawg

And there are people who are given the gift of healing who are NOT elders of the church.

I’ve been to retreats put on by the Catholic church (yes, believe it or not) and there were priests who had the healing anointing. This was back in the 70’s when the charismatic movement hit the Catholic Church.

I’ve never said they didn’t pass muster because Catholics did it. I doubt any one here even thinks that, Mad Dawg. I wonder if any HERE believed in the gifts of the HS. Do any practice them? I’m interested in knowing that, sincerely.


6,169 posted on 06/16/2008 12:17:55 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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