[Dr. Eckleburg]

I'm perfectly content to debate those verses endlessly.

Mark said I didn't answer his post, which even you now realize I most certainly did do.

MARKBSNR: I have asked the good Dr. E. to provide a list of verses that prove predestination to hell, but she has been unable to do so.

Not only did I provide the list in post 5,447, but Mark commented on it.

If Mark wants to reword his post to say that while I did post a list, he does not agree with that list, that's fine by me.

[mgist]

I don't dissagree with the issue of predestination. However, there is a pesky component in human nature called "Free Will". God gave us the choice to love and obey Him.

God predestined Adam and Eve to have everything they needed and live in peace. The devil came along and tempted Eve with the opportunity to be like God and have His knowledge. Adam and Eve dissobeyed God, the Garden of Eden was taken away, the balance was broken, and the rest is history. We come from that lineage.

The bible warns us in almost every passage to stay away from self-deceit and sin. We are not God. We are all sinfull beings and to the extent that we are, we are farther from Jesus. If you think that you are immune from sin, you are off to a bad direction in your path to salvation my friend. I say that out out of love and concern, not judgement.