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To: MarkBsnr; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...

No government based . . .

Oh, right . . . not ased on the Roman political clique’s power-mongering committee’s Johnny-come-lately presumptions and biases about what would suit their political governmental ends, coffers and CONTROL FREQUE schemes best—several hundred years after the fact.

THAT government based.

Yeah, avoiding that clique’s fantasies and legends and trumped up interpretations of even the weather would be wise.


5,513 posted on 06/13/2008 4:01:35 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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***No government based . . .

Oh, right . . . not ased on the Roman political clique’s power-mongering committee’s Johnny-come-lately presumptions and biases about what would suit their political governmental ends, coffers and CONTROL FREQUE schemes best—several hundred years after the fact.

THAT government based.

Yeah, avoiding that clique’s fantasies and legends and trumped up interpretations of even the weather would be wise.***

Sit, children, sit. Are you comfortable? Then we’ll begin.

The King James Bible.

http://www.av1611.org/kjv/kjvhist.html has some useful nuggets.

One of the first things done by the new king was the calling of the Hampton Court Conference in January of 1604 “for the hearing, and for the determining, things pretended to be amiss in the church.” Here were assembled bishops, clergymen, and professors, along with four Puritan divines, to consider the complaints of the Puritans. Although Bible revision was not on the agenda, the Puritan president of Corpus Christi College, John Reynolds, “moved his Majesty, that there might be a new translation of the Bible, because those which were allowed in the reigns of Henry the eighth, and Edward the sixth, were corrupt and not answerable to the truth of the Original.”

The king rejoined that he:

“Could never yet see a Bible well translated in English; but I think that, of all, that of Geneva is the worst. I wish some special pains were taken for an uniform translation, which should be done by he best learned men in both Universities, then reviewed by the Bishops, presented to the Privy Council, lastly ratified by the Royal authority, to be read in the whole Church, and none other.”
Accordingly, a resolution came forth:

“That a translation be made of the whole Bible, as consonant as can be to the original Hebrew and Greek; and this to be set out and printed, without any marginal notes, and only to be used in all churches of England in time of divine service.”

The next step was the actual selection of the men who were to perform the work. In July of 1604, James wrote to Bishop Bancroft that he had “appointed certain learned men, to the number of four and fifty, for the translating of the Bible.” These men were the best biblical scholars and linguists of their day. In the preface to their completed work it is further stated that “there were many chosen, that were greater in other men’s eyes than in their own, and that sought the truth rather than their own praise. Again, they came or were thought to come to the work, learned, not to learn.” Other men were sought out, according to James, “so that our said intended translation may have the help and furtherance of all our principal learned men within this our kingdom.”

The Westminster Confession of Faith

I am indebted to http://www.opc.org/preface.html for the following:

In 1643, during a period of civil war, the English “Long Parliament” (under the control of Presbyterian Puritans) convened an Assembly of Divines (mostly Puritan ministers, including a few influential Scottish commissioners) at Westminster Abbey in London. Their task was to advise Parliament on how to bring the Church of England into greater conformity with the Church of Scotland and the Continental Reformed churches. The Westminster Assembly produced documents on doctrine, church government, and worship that have largely defined Presbyterianism down to this day. These documents included a Confession of Faith (1646), a Larger Catechism (1647), and a Shorter Catechism (1647), often collectively called “the Westminster standards.”

So you see, children, the Parliament of England, not content with the damage to Christianity done by the KJV, commissioned, bought, staffed with the King’s men, and brought forth a work by bureaucrats and called the Westminster Confession of Faith and the two Catechisms (conceivably because those with weak stomachs could only stand so much and a Shorter Catechism would be easier to take).

Government I said, and government I mean. All the railing that people did against England then and foreign governments now and they lap up foreign government documents and call them holy. Disgusting.


5,530 posted on 06/13/2008 5:00:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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