[OLD REGGIE]

The Pope is not venerated. Priests, Bishops, and even some Heads of State bow and scrape at his feet but he is treated as an "ordinary" man. A man who has as one of his titles "His Holiness".

President Bush was roundly criticized for calling him "sir". After all, that shows a lack of respect for "His Holiness". Ha!

Pope's robe cut up for 100,000 'holy relics'

Now it is possible to "venerate" this "holy relic". Sad. Sad story.

[Mad Dawg]

Maybe it's time for a refresher course on your tag line.

A lot of people think that JP2 is a saint.
Not all Popes are thought to be saints.
Items touched by a saint are relics. That's all.

I know that for those who find any sophistry fit to beat a Papist, this will be taken as "parsing", but relics of JP2 do not show what you are tryng to make them show.

Tra la.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Pope's robe cut up for 100,000 'holy relics'

Now it is possible to "venerate" this "holy relic". Sad. Sad story.

Amazing and pitiful.

Thank God for Father Kenneth Baker in his essay, "The Amazing Gift of the Priesthood" who clarifies the debate when he informs us that "priests are 'another Christ' in both their professional and private lives."

So while a few RCs might like to tell us these dudes are just some regular Joes (which of course they are except for their high-priced footwear) they sure aren't treated like that by the laity who kiss their rings and bow their heads and pray over their shredded robes.