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To: Petronski
Yes, I have been baptized. But the act of baptizing does not save anyone. And this wasn't the question anyway.

The question was if I knowingly rebuke the Roman Catholic church with my last breath, where will I end up?

Because according to the RCC catechism, I must either willingly or in some hidden or covert or unknown manner, accept the Roman Catholic church (and thus the magisterium and the pope) or I am not saved.

From the RCC catechism at vatican.va...

171 What is the meaning of the affirmation “Outside the Church there is no salvation”?

846-848

This means that all salvation comes from Christ, the Head, through the Church which is his body. Hence they cannot be saved who, knowing the Church as founded by Christ and necessary for salvation, would refuse to enter her or remain in her. At the same time, thanks to Christ and to his Church, those who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ and his Church but sincerely seek God and, moved by grace, try to do his will as it is known through the dictates of conscience can attain eternal salvation.

As I said before, I do not believe salvation comes through the Roman Catholic church but through the word of God made known to men by the Holy Spirit.

I "refuse to enter her."

I also "know the Gospel of Christ and His church" (note the catechism capitalizes "Church," but not "his.")

I "sincerely seek God" outside the Roman Catholic church and I believe I am "moved by grace" to "do His will."

Can I be saved while all these things remain true?

4,054 posted on 06/08/2008 1:53:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The question about baptism IS the question here.

Can I be saved while all these things remain true?

If you have been baptized by a Triune formula, yes.

4,065 posted on 06/08/2008 2:37:14 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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