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To: Petronski; xzins; 1000 silverlings; Marysecretary; wmfights; OLD REGGIE; roamer_1; Quix
When did Benedict identify, specifically or generally, any Christian as "defective?"

Ahhh, how quickly they forget...

POPE: SOME CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS NOT TRUE CHURCHES

Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches...

POPE'S DECLARATION OF CATHOLIC PRIMACY HAS PROTESTANTS, OTHER FAITHS MIFFED

"A document released this week by the Vatican, which declares the Catholic Church's primacy and can be seen as deeming other Christian communities defective, has stirred up outrage...

3,776 posted on 06/07/2008 1:38:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Yes, communities and churches.

When did Pope Benedict call another Christian “defective?”

Not their church or community, but them as persons?


3,778 posted on 06/07/2008 1:40:13 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
That is a misstatement of Pope Benedict's words. What he actually said was this:

“Therefore, these separated Churches and communities as such, though we believe they suffer from defects, have by no means been deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”.66

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to repost this great man's words. He deserves all the attention we can offer him.

3,780 posted on 06/07/2008 1:43:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches...

I'm sure you will get twenty questions about the veracity of the quote (of course including the link might reduce the number). Then it will be twenty assertions that you don't understand what he's saying, or its taken out of context. Followed by twenty redefinitions of the word "defective". Finalized with the twenty posts about being an "anti-catholic bigot".

Thanks for finding the quote and posting it. It is a great illustration of how we can easily forget things that people find objectionable. I was surprised anyone would argue the point.

3,804 posted on 06/07/2008 2:13:10 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Well, that kinda lays it out.


3,814 posted on 06/07/2008 2:24:20 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

But, but, that’s a misrepresenation of the Pope’s actual words!!!!


3,841 posted on 06/07/2008 3:03:05 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Don’t worry. They’ll find some way to discount all his or any other Catholic leaders’ words. They just refuse to see it. BIG deception on their part.


3,877 posted on 06/07/2008 4:06:31 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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