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To: Dr. Eckleburg; netmilsmom
But that hasn't stopped Catholics on this forum from saying Mary is on the cross with Christ and helping Him to save His sheep.

Then POST THE LINK, because to make such a blatantly outrageous claim without proof is bearing false witness.

3,474 posted on 06/06/2008 11:05:56 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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DR.E: But that hasn't stopped Catholics on this forum from saying Mary is on the cross with Christ and helping Him to save His sheep.

WAGGLEBEE: Then POST THE LINK, because to make such a blatantly outrageous claim without proof is bearing false witness.

lol. "Outrageous claim?!?"

Would that that were true.

From an article in the newspaper published by the Holy See and written by JPII...

MARY WAS UNITED TO JESUS ON THE CROSS

"A disciple and friend of St Bernard, Arnold of Chartres, shed light particularly on Mary's offering in the sacrifice of Calvary. He distinguished in the Cross "two altars: one in Mary's heart, the other in Christ's body. Christ sacrificed his flesh, Mary her soul". Mary sacrificed herself spiritually in deep communion with Christ, and implored the world's salvation: "What the mother asks, the Son approves and the Father grants" (cf. De septem verbis Domini in cruce, 3: PL 189, 1694)..."

Read it and weep. Just about every word treacherous to the Gospel.

Are Catholics so blind they miss the fact the above paragraph (and the entire link) hands God's electing grace over to Mary, of all people!

"What the mother asks, the Son approves and the Father grants."

And if Mary doesn't ask, the Son won't approve!?!

Do you not see this puts Mary in the position of determining salvation with Christ merely okaying the deal and God fascilitating it? All in response to Mary's initial instigating request!?!!!

Blasphemy.

Shame on the words in that link. The more I read of what the RCC has done to Mary, in their own words, no less, the more grateful to God I am for keeping me from such idolatry and lies.

Flee from it.

3,576 posted on 06/06/2008 1:17:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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