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>>How long, approximately, would you guesstimate, that it would normally take for the magisterical elite’s political process to finally grind that out as a new approved, mandatory dogma—just as it did with the other Mary dogmas—the last one mere decades ago in the modern era?<<

I’m not really the person to ask. I’m not an expert on dogma. However our current Pope is. And he’s not going for the Co-redmptrix title, no matter what any other Catholic may like.

“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good. He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “

So everyone here who is troubled with this title, no need to be. Our Pope is not going for it. Take heart

So everyone here who is troubled with this title, no need to be. Our Pope is not going for it. Take heart

Let me make a prediction: not one prottie will acknowledge B16'a sratement, instead they will whine about "8 times JPII said co-redemptrix" and cry that Catholics are trying to have it both ways. I've seen it already. *sigh* No air or light can get into a closed mind. The next thing they'll do is look up "co-" in another 10 dictionaries, going all the way back to 1838 or whenever.

They are obsessed, and we all know that obsessed people cannot see or hear anything outside their obsession. Talk about your vain repetition!

Thanks for Ratzinger’s quote. It’s comforting.

I assume that perspective of his is the reigning one from him?

Sometimes it seems that the RC edifice stands on several sides of an issue in some respects.

So everyone here who is troubled with this title, no need to be. Our Pope is not going for it. Take heart.

Makes no never mind to me. It will simply be one more burden piled on your shoulders.

As for Ratzinger is a Vatican pro. As head of the Office Of The Inquisition - oh wait - Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith (same office-different name) he confirmed the infallibility of Ordinatio Sacerdotalis. I don't know how this works but apparently this one man is the Magisterium all rolled up into one person.

This man is a polished politician and you must be careful to analyze the words carefully. :)

“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good. He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “

So everyone here who is troubled with this title, no need to be. Our Pope is not going for it. Take heart

Are you certain my child?

The doctrine of the bodily assumption is now extensively believed, and it is this doctrine which Pope Pius XI may promulgate in definite terms.

New Mary Dogma Monday, Jan. 21, 1924