You've poisoned your own well. Here's how:
First you seemed to say that we think Mary pre-existed Creation. I asked you if you were serious. Did you reply?
Then you wrote that you are prepared to summarize what you have not read.
And while I don't know if you were involved we now have the disclosure of the "Drive them nuts" strategy.
Couple this with the standard put out by Protestants on US7's earlier thread, and we have reasonable doubts of innocence.
So I cannot be certain that your statement is sincere or just meant to eat up the time and energy of papertyger.
Yesterday, even tho I tried to answer biblical questions on this thread,and using scripture to validate the arguments, I was subjected to ridicule and constantly criticized, so why continue to incite such a response. Unlike others here though, I don't care about the caustic comments really, these are the open threads and I am glad we have them.
Mary has indeed been called the "firstborn of every creature" by one of the popes, and the reference has been posted too many times to claim we make it up.