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To: netmilsmom; Marysecretary; Quix; Dr. Eckleburg

Still, right or wrong? The RCs constantly complain people who post here hate them? They take personally what is only a clash of ideas. Hiding behind that facade gives them a reason not to critically examine their religion’s theology. Isn’t it just “the poor me, I’m a victim” defense?


2,109 posted on 06/04/2008 2:49:42 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings
Hiding behind that facade gives them a reason not to critically examine their religion’s theology.

You make an unsupported assumption that they have not critically examined their religion's theology.

2,110 posted on 06/04/2008 2:51:32 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: 1000 silverlings; wagglebee; Marysecretary

No one should personalize and parties are guilty on both sides.

Look at the string of posts that led to this.

wagglebee to netmilsmom
Some here are so blinded by their hatred, they don’t think through the unintended consequences of their words.

to which Marysecretary said
To: wagglebee
Why don’t you get off that hatred kick? We don’t hate you any more than you hate us.

Now Wagglebee never said that Mary hated him. But she personalized his post.

Marysecretary is a fine example. I really think she loves me and believe her when she says she does. She is very sweet and I adore her, yet she said hateful things about RC doctrine and has stated that she is trying to save us. I believe that is sincere, she is a beautiful woman.

So when she says something, IMO, nasty about what I do, I try not to take it personally. It’s really the big picture isn’t it?

(hope that wasn’t against the rules)


2,141 posted on 06/04/2008 3:17:25 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: 1000 silverlings
They take personally what is only a clash of ideas.

I believe you are mistaken.

No. wait. I should have said,
"HOGWASH! GTTM!" (guffaws to the max.)Further the other day you put up a post seeming to say that we say that Mary existed before Creation. I asked if you were kidding or not.

If you were kidding, how was that post, alleging that we believe something we do NOT believe, a clash of ideas? If you were NOT kidding, then what kind of clash is it when the one of the ideas is one we repudiate but you allege of us? Find somebody who DOES think Mary existed before Creation and clash with him.

In either case, the clash of ideas description seems false, at least as far as that post is concerned.

But in any event, this is no longer speculation. I don't think it's true of all who disagree with us on FR, but it is now known to be true of some, that their point is not to have a clash of ideas but to irritate, to drive people nuts. And, yes, if someone sets out to irritate me or a group I'm in, I take that personally, as it was meant.

I am delighted to discuss the ideas. I can't wait to start.

2,405 posted on 06/04/2008 10:21:01 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
The RCs constantly complain people who post here hate them? They take personally what is only a clash of ideas. Hiding behind that facade gives them a reason not to critically examine their religion’s theology. Isn’t it just “the poor me, I’m a victim” defense?

Amen! Just tonight I posted to the dreaded "hate" assault.

They need a new drug.

2,419 posted on 06/04/2008 11:30:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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