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To: trisham
4. From the moment of Mary’s consent, the mystery of the Incarnation becomes a reality. The Son of God enters our world and begins to live as a man, while remaining fully God. From that moment Mary becomes the Mother of God.

This is the highest title that can be given to a creature. It is totally justified in Mary’s case, because a mother is mother of the person of her son in the complete fullness of his humanity. Mary is the "Mother of God" inasmuch as she is the Mother of the "Son of God’, even if this motherhood is defined in the context of the mystery of the Incarnation.

Thanks for posting this example of worship of Mary. She is credited with everything that God has done through the incarnation of His Son. She is given this credit by the RCC, NOT by God. Never in the bible is this credit implied. It is known that the bible doesn't give her this credit and the response is that the bible is not complete or sufficient and who am I to pretend to understand it anyway.

1,893 posted on 06/04/2008 11:25:33 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: DungeonMaster
Thanks for posting this example of worship of Mary.

What an exquisite example of The Game.

1,894 posted on 06/04/2008 11:27:15 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: DungeonMaster; trisham
She is credited with everything that God has done through the incarnation of His Son.

She isn't credited with ANYTHING other than CONSENTING to God's request. Are you suggesting that the Blessed Mother DID NOT have the option of declining?

1,896 posted on 06/04/2008 11:28:24 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DungeonMaster
Never in the bible is this credit implied.

Catholics are not hamstrung by the non-Scriptural error known as sola scriptura.

1,897 posted on 06/04/2008 11:29:35 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: DungeonMaster

Perhaps you might consider reading from the source, for which a link was provided. It might help.


1,899 posted on 06/04/2008 11:29:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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It is known that the bible doesn't give her this credit

Have Protestants now redacted the first chapter of the Gospel of Saint Luke?

1,901 posted on 06/04/2008 11:31:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: DungeonMaster

Sigh...


1,948 posted on 06/04/2008 12:28:30 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: DungeonMaster; 1000 silverlings; OLD REGGIE; Marysecretary; Quix
this example of worship of Mary. She is credited with everything that God has done through the incarnation of His Son. She is given this credit by the RCC, NOT by God. Never in the bible is this credit implied. It is known that the bible doesn't give her this credit and the response is that the bible is not complete or sufficient and who am I to pretend to understand it anyway.

LOL. Exactly right!

From the RCC catechism...

"Taken up to heaven, she (Mary) did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation." (969)

"Being obedient she (Mary) became the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race." (494)

Do Catholics even read this stuff? It is blasphemy. Regardless of how the RCC tries to twist these words into something palatable, they still stick in the throat and stop the breathing.

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned." -- Matthew 12:36-37


1,957 posted on 06/04/2008 12:37:31 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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