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To: rollo tomasi
I read through the entire screed--though I stopped to catch a breath and wipe the bile from my screen--and got to this at the end:

Which Apostle taught the Assumption as a plan of salvation?

Who teaches the Assumption as a plan of salvation?

11,110 posted on 07/03/2008 5:36:01 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
At least refute the “bile” if you can.

The "bile" is the historical truth, based on a wobbly legend with no true traditional linkage to the actual event.

Instead of debate the cowards way is taken. When I encounter insults it's usually from a person who is on the ignorant position, i.e. incapable of a proper response . I will take this “bile” and continue to try an pound TRUE Apostolistic Catholic tradition, not RCC make it up as you go tradition (Again, wonder why it took 1500 years).

Who teaches the Assumption as a plan of salvation?

Pius XII and all who wanted the Assumption declared dogma.
Don't you read any of your earthly rulers proclamations?

11,121 posted on 07/03/2008 5:54:06 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Petronski; rollo tomasi
Who teaches the Assumption as a plan of salvation?

Who teaches that the union of the mother and the son is the plan of salvation?

Catechism Of The Catholic Church

964 Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. "This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death"; it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:

Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: "Woman, behold your son."

Who teaches that Mary is directly involved in the "ressurection" of other Christians?

966 "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death." The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians:

In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death.

11,227 posted on 07/04/2008 9:47:18 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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