You will also notice that the FACT that Europe also faced famine and war in the 14th and 15th centuries was entirely ignored and this had substantial effects on the population.
Additionally, the comparison to America’s growth is our first century as a free republic, this is also farcical. America had the benefit of IMMIGRATION and an ENTIRE CONTINENT FOR EXPANSION, Europe had none of these. Moreover, the Black Death DID change the face of Europe, yes it took about a century, but the transformation was incredible. Out of the Black Death came the Renaissance and the middle class (which had NEVER before existed ANYWHERE in the history of the world).
Finally, there is still the FACT that roamer_1’s original statement was that the Catholic Church was responsible for 100 MILLION deaths and we have yet to see a modicum of proof for that, just innuendo based upon untruths.
***Finally, there is still the FACT that roamer_1’s original statement was that the Catholic Church was responsible for 100 MILLION deaths and we have yet to see a modicum of proof for that, just innuendo based upon untruths.***
They brag and brag about the greatness of American education; yet the average Singaporean malnourished skinny kid can outperform most of our brightest and fattest even suffering from jet lag.
My experience with most of the non denominationals and the Restorationist churchs (those created since 1835) repress history to the extreme and paint a rather rosy view of the faithful (of that sect) being persecuted all the way back to Christ, yet having to remain underground until the Reformation or Restoration or the opening of a large cask of whisky.
It was *not* ignored.
Additionally, the comparison to America’s growth is our first century as a free republic, this is also farcical. America had the benefit of IMMIGRATION and an ENTIRE CONTINENT FOR EXPANSION, Europe had none of these.
And every yard of that land had to be fought for- With the British and the French, and the indians... You do remember all those indians we Protestants had to slaughter... you can't have it both ways.
Finally, there is still the FACT that roamer_1’s original statement was that the Catholic Church was responsible for 100 MILLION deaths and we have yet to see a modicum of proof for that, just innuendo based upon untruths.
It is pretty hard to get traction when you won't even admit the slaughter of the Cathari and the Waldenses, and the like, all very well documented historical fact. If you can't admit to these, there is no sense in continuing, as I know of no way to cure such denial.
Here is the best tally I have found online- He vigorously and easily defends a European death toll of 58 million in historical battles, crusades, and inquisitions alone, with speculation quite like mine showing figures over 100million in Europe, and then introduces the New Word and the Middle East and Northern Africa as well. It is well attributed.
"Estimates of the Number Killed by the Papacy in the Middle Ages" by David A. Plaisted