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To: wagglebee
[No, it is blasphemy to say that being 'fully human' means being a 'perfect human' which Christ was, and that Mary was as 'fully human' as Christ was, which is what the RCC teaches.]

Nobody has EVER suggested that the Blessed Virgin Mary was "perfect" and I challenge you to show otherwise.

The RCC teaches that Mary was born sinless and lived sinless.

What do you consider perfect?

[ The 'fully human' definition as being sinless is from one of your fellow RCC posters, it is not mine.]

I'm not quite sure what you are getting at here. The immaculate state of Mary's soul does not make her "perfect" or "divine" in any way.

If Mary was born without sin and lived without sin, she would be as perfect as Christ.

So, it is not only the immaculate conception, but the fact that Mary was suppose to have lived sinless as well.

Please tell me, what does the phrase, "Blessed art thou AMONG women mean to you"?

It means she was blessed among women, she was chosen to bear the Messiah, who would die for HER sins, that she committed in life like anyone else.

Note the expression, 'among women', she was not blessed above all mankind!

She was blessed in being able to do something only a woman can do, bear children.

Do you agree that she sinnned as a human being?

10,676 posted on 06/30/2008 10:21:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christus)
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To: fortheDeclaration
It means she was blessed among women, she was chosen to bear the Messiah, who would die for HER sins, that she committed in life like anyone else.

Totally incorrect.

Note the expression, 'among women', she was not blessed above all mankind!

And this means that the Blessed Mother must have been in ALL WAYS more blessed than Eve.

Do you agree that she sinnned as a human being?

I most certainly DO NOT.

10,719 posted on 07/01/2008 7:56:08 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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