Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
Anyone who reads with “Pope derangement syndrome” that is.
Thank you for sharing your own personal interpretation of Scripture.
Nonetheless, Mary is not dead.
>>No one “worships the Bible.” No one prays to the Bible. No one kneels to the Bible. <<
I’ve seen it with my own eyes. And other FReepers have too.
Pinged one here.
In Genesis 3:15, after Adam and Eve committed Original Sin, God addresses Satan, who is represented by the serpent: "I will put enmity between you and the woman and between your seed and her seed; he (2) shall crush your head, and you shall lie in wait for his heel." Since the "seed" of the woman is Jesus Christ, who is to crush Satan victoriously in the Redemption, then the woman must in fact refer to Mary, Mother of the Redeemer.
The word "enmity," which is rich in meaning in this passage, signifies "in opposition to." The enmity established between the "seed" of the woman, which is Jesus, and the "seed" of the serpent, which is sin, and all evil angels and humans, is in absolute and complete opposition, because there is absolute and complete opposition between Jesus and all evil. In other words, the seed of the woman and the seed of Satan have to be in complete and total opposition to each other as depicted in the term "enmity."
Further in the passage we see the identical God-given opposition or enmity given and proclaimed by God between the woman, Mary, and the serpent, Satan. Mary is given the same absolute and perpetual opposition to Satan as Jesus possesses in relation to sin. It is for this reason that Mary could not have received a fallen nature as a result of Original Sin. Any participation in the effects of Original Sin would place the Mother of Jesus in at least partial participation with Satan and sin, thereby destroying the complete God-given opposition as revealed in Genesis 3:15.
The opposition between Jesus and sin is paralleled by the opposition between the woman, Mary, and the serpent, Satan. Again, this tells us that the Mother of Jesus could not participate in the fallen nature of man because that would mean participating, at least partially, in the domain of sin, a reality to which God gave Mary complete opposition.
From the New Testament the principal scriptural seed for the Immaculate Conception is revealed in the inspired words of the Angel Gabriel, "Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you" (Lk 1:28). In the angelic greeting, Mary's name is nowhere used. Rather, the title "full of grace" is used as a substitute for Mary's name by the angelic messenger of God. These angelic words refer to a fullness of grace, a plentitude of grace that is part of Mary's very nature. So much is Mary's very being full of grace that this title serves to identify Mary in place of her own name. It is also true that no person with a fallen nature could possess a fullness of grace, a plentitude of grace, appropriate only for the woman who was to give God the Son an identical, immaculate human nature. Mary was conceived in providence to be the woman who would give her same immaculate nature to God when God became man. Certainly we can see the fittingness in God receiving a human nature from a human mother, and receiving an immaculate nature from a truly immaculate mother.
Scriptural reference please
Then they can join the Orthodox Presybterians (or whatever they're calling themselves).
You mean to say that you have inside sources both at the Vatican and within the Greek Orthodox hierarchy???? Wow -- I'm impressed!!
Catholics believe, short version, the Nicene Creed, which is neither "anything" nor "nothing."
With all due respect, you have just given me an example of YOPIOS. The woman in Genesis was eve, and later spiritual Israel .
VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ.[13] Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.[14]
Like I said in my post, I guess you would have to be a loving parent to understand that you want only what is best for your child. It is much more so for our Immaculate Mary. It is like all things of faith, a very personal journey for those of us who have experienced God’s gift to us. I wish all could experience the gift of Mother Mary. It is Okay if you don’t. Please respect those who do. That’s all.
All of us are engaged in "discussion" on an "open thread."
My questions are not "hostile," and respectfully, Petronski, it doesn't look like you're "fielding" them.
It’s in the Bible, Sir. It’s not my personal interpretation. And I will leave it at that.
Was HE a Jeopardy champion too?
Oh it's coming to me. But in his case the answer was, It's the motto (or one of the 50 gajillion mottos) of the Dominicans.
Alex Trebec wouldn't let them repeat a question. That Pilate feller was a furriner, warn't he. I think he said, Αλεκ, Τι εστιν αληθεια
I answer the questions I want, whether they are asked or not.
Yes, but unless you have some scripture to support the claims that you make in theology, or some other kind of concrete evidence that can be accepted universally, then you do not put forth a credible argument, just little fantasy feel good stories. All scripture says is that “Mary pondered these things in her heart” and that she called the Lord her Savior, same as the rest of us.
Yeah, Petronski -- the word you wanted is "inane." Or maybe "jejune." Have you no sense of style??? ;-)
And she called the Lord her Son, same as -- oops! Never mind!
To whom? Depends on who is looking, in my opinion.
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