Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
That Pharisee sounds like a Calvinist. I wonder if he had ELECT vanity plates on his chariot.
I ask the Holy Spirit to fill me but I don’t ask Him to pray for me. That’s not His mission. His mission is to guide and direct us, to convict us of sin. It’s Jesus who is our intercessor to the Father, NO ONE else, sandy.
Then why didn't at least one of you think to copy pope John Paul II on that memo?
JPII referred to Mary as the "co-redemptrix" on at least six (some say eight) occasions during his papacy.
I’m not reading the poster’s mind, I’m going by the evidence he has presented in these discussions. For instance when I told him that Christians have the mind of Christ, he was incredulous and accused me of Gnosticism. Every post to me denies that something is in the bible and demands that I prove it. The only conclusion that can be drawn is that he has never read it.
>>It’s not a quote, it’s a restatement of the Calvinist view of the predestination of Mary.<<
Oh I don’t think I could live with that at all.
Yikes.
LOL
As are yours.
Hmm is right! Pot calling kettle black?
There was no name-calling from me.
Reference by a pope, once or a hundred times, does not Catholic doctrine make.
You mean like telling someone they're linking to a hate site when they're not?
Yes, I’m still laughing at the bankruptcy of your position.
I’ve noticed that. Initially I was shocked beyond belief that anyone calling themselves Christian could utter such things.
Alas, when GOD ALONE is not one’s focus . . . all kinds of inordinate affections can take root.
Nice to see your name again. Joya sends greetings.
I’m sad for you, I really am.
Are you actually claiming that “You’ve never read the bible” is neither personal nor mindreading?
>>Then why didn’t at least one of you think to copy pope John Paul II on that memo?<<
Because as Marysecretary says...”He’s dead Jim.”
Hanging here in the religion forum can make one miss info. JPII is dead, Pope Benedict is very much alive and our new Pope. Here’s what he says......
“Yet when asked, in a 2000 interview by Peter Seewald contained in the book God and the World, whether the Church would go along with the desire to solemnly define Mary as Co-redemptrix, Ratzinger’s response doesn’t look good. He says that the title Co-redemptrix “departs to too great an extent from the language of Scripture and of the Fathers and therefore gives rise to misunderstandings” (53). He also says that “for matters of faith, continuity of terminology with the language of Scripture and that of the Fathers is itself an essential element; it is improper simply to manipulate language” (54). “
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That may or may not be a statement of fact, but it is not an attribution of motive.
Hmm, maybe not in your bible.
2Tim. 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
IMO, this is clearly saying following the bible’s instruction is all we need to please God. I mean, what’s better then perfect?:)
Well put.
Yes, I can understand that satan likes dissension, but he also likes to block the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I accept your heartfelt apology and understand the reasoning behind it. But none of us here has the devil IN them.
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