The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

May God grant you the ability to proclaim the Gospel in truth and love.

[1000 silverlings]

So over the top, you might need a parachute

[Petronski]

Rome squirms because when that Gospel is preached Rome is shown to be in error time after time.

The capital city of Italy is squirming?

Good thing the Catholic Church has no such problem.

[wagglebee]

No one can read another person's mind. And "reading minds" is a form of "making it personal" and therefore not tolerable on the Religion Forum.

Which is while I specifically used the phrase "ordinarily considered."

Some of those who toss around hateful statements like grass seed also say that they are doing it out of love.

Islamofascists often go out of their way to affirm that they believe Jews to be "people of the Book" and to say that they don't hate the Jews -- yet they are determined to destroy Israel.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The one where you were trying to tell the mod how to do their job.

I never tried to tell the mod how to do their job. I asked for clarification.

[Petronski]

Don't skimp with that Westminster Confession of Faith!

CHAPTER XXV
Of the Church

VI. There is no other head of the Church but the Lord Jesus Christ.[13] Nor can the Pope of Rome, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.[14]

Hatred, pure and simple.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Sado-evangelists agree on something!

What's a "sado-evangelist?"

Is this some crude comment the Religion Moderator should be pinged to?

[Petronski]

...the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door.

Were you baptized in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

If so, you have entered the Church.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

That is the WCF of 1647, I believe. That particular "antiChrist" verse was toned down in later publications of the Confession.

Like you, I am partial to the original.

[Petronski]

Lol. God in heaven, thank you for teaching me "the Gospel of Christ and His church" and for keeping me "ignorant" of such foul errors as "other Christs" and "co-redeemers" and the alchemy of transubstantiation and confessional mediators and "infallible" false bishops of Rome, etc.

Thanking God for keeping you ignorant?

I don't think it is God who is doing that.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

My membership in Christ's church on earth was acknowledged by my baptism as a sign and seal of God's New Covenant of grace.

However, my baptism did not save me. Christ on the cross saved me. His justification saved me. His obedience saved me. His righteousness saved me.

[Mad Dawg]

A co-pilot can do what the pilot can do. But Mary can’t do what Jesus can do.

OF course.

But the question was whether "co" denote a junior position or rank or must it designate equality? You were arguing that it denotes equality.

I adduced co-pilot as one of many examples to show how the prefix can denote a junior position. All I needed to show to deal with our contention was that "co" denoted something other than "equality". Somebody else brought up several other examples. You made a linguistic or lexical contention. your contention was addressed and shown to be incorrect. Our mission was to address the contention you made. I believe we did so, at least adequately.

Is it a general tenet of Protestant faith or practice that when an argument is lost one must pretend that it wasn't or change the subject?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Read the comment again. "Ignorant" of following Rome's errors.

Thank God I know Christ alone.

"Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed." -- 1 Peter 2:24

Wake up and rejoice.

[wagglebee]

First, most Protestant writers are not so myopic as to say Catholics are going to hell. The books I've read about Catholicism by Protestant authors are careful to simply post the Scriptures which reveal the blatant idolatry of Rome, permitting the reader to draw his own conclusions.

Of course not, that might be counterproductive; however, the implication is ALWAYS present. And trust me, I am well aware of how "careful" these writers are to ONLY use those verses that are easiest to distort.

No church on earth is perfect and no one has everything right 100% of the time or else they would be God.

Strange, I thought Calvinists believed that the Church IS the Body of Christ.

Rome squirms because when that Gospel is preached Rome is shown to be in error time after time.

By "Rome" I presume you mean the Catholic Church. Can you point to one of these occasions where the Church has "squirmed" and recanted?

Has the Catholic Church, like so many Protestant denominations, revised or abandoned Biblical prohibitions against the ordination of women, homosexuality and abortion?

As for the rest of what you wrote, it as been explained to you more than enough times, it would be an exercise in futility for me to go through it again. But let me point this out to you, because ANYBODY can start their own Protestant denomination at ANY TIME and for ANY REASON, ANYTHING published by ANY Protestant can be considered "Protestant literature," to that end I find it implausible that nothing has been written that is far more inflammatory than the misunderstood declarations of the Council of Trent.

[wagglebee]

Good one!

[Mad Dawg]

The line between official and acceptable doesn't exist.

By what authority or on what basis do you say this?

What does it mean? It seems to fly in the face of common sense and experience.

The above is my way of saying, "Huh? I don't give me some help, please."

[1000 silverlings]

I skip the psychobabble posts but the gist is something that you and I are sick sick puppies. Woof

[Petronski]

You are thanking God for keeping you ignorant. That’s really very sad.

[Petronski]

I posted from the version you linked. I can certainly understand why one would leave out that bit.

[Petronski]

You called the doctrine you quoted from the Catechism “exclusive.” I merely pointed out that it does not exclude you.