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To: Petronski
There are a multitude of examples of early fathers of the church talking about the real presence. For example:

Did you walk into a bank of fog??? Context has nothing to do with the issue...It's not about context...It's about the authority of the written word...

John said something and then he wrote it down...And we can know that something 'for certain' because it is written down and that writing is the authoritative truth...And that applies to 'all' of scripture...

Whether you understand what is written is an entirely different matter...

136 posted on 05/30/2008 4:41:40 PM PDT by Iscool (<p><i>)
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To: Iscool
Did you walk into a bank of fog???

Please do not make this personal.

Context has nothing to do with the issue...It's not about context...It's about the authority of the written word...

False dichotomy.

It's about the context of the written word. You want to pull 1Jn 5:13 out of the text and have it stand alone. Yet that verse refers back to the verses before it ("...these things...").

John is referring back to 1Jn 5:1-12. That is context and it is means everything.

137 posted on 05/30/2008 4:50:37 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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