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To: Rippin

Jesus also said if your eye offends you, pluck it out. He said if your hand offends you, cut it off. Never seen a Catholic missing an eye or hand that he’d removed himself. I guess Jesus wasn’t being literal there.


12 posted on 05/28/2008 2:08:39 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody
It just says we are saved by grace

Precisely. We are saved by grace. Faith is a means that God uses to infuse the soul with His saving grace. Our own belief does not save. God saves.

Never seen a Catholic missing an eye or hand that he’d removed himself. I guess Jesus wasn’t being literal there.

Again, it is clear from the context of John 6 that Christ is repreatedly emphasizing the literal, non-figurative nature of what he is saying.

"My flesh is real food, my blood is real drink."

He did not say "If an eye offend thee, pluck it out. Pluck out your real eye."

14 posted on 05/28/2008 2:13:04 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: MEGoody

>>Never seen a Catholic missing an eye or hand that he’d removed himself. I guess Jesus wasn’t being literal there.<<

Maybe he was, but Catholics trust that it takes a lot to offend us. XD


72 posted on 05/28/2008 6:24:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: MEGoody

Jesus also said if your eye offends you, pluck it out. He said if your hand offends you, cut it off. Never seen a Catholic missing an eye or hand that he’d removed himself. I guess Jesus wasn’t being literal there.


1. Logic is your friend
2. There is nobody (Protestant or Roman Catholic or any other faith I know of that denies Jesus used figurative language - so don’t imply that without asserting it - and if that’s not what you did your comment is meaningless.
3. The question remains as to whether John six in this regard is figurative.
4. The scritpure does backflips to keep you from allegorizing here.
5. “And some ceased to follow him ...”
6. Origin an others did cut off their offending parts
7. The Church outlawed this practice expressly and rendered a definitive conclusion as to the interpretation of that passage re: cutting of members
8. Prots have no way to know if there is a definitive interpretation and each new generation of Prots needs to decided what is right in their own eyes.
9. I’m not an RC]
10. The Church knows of four primary senses for the interpretation of scripture. 1. Literal 2. Moral 3. Sacramental 4. Spiritual/mystical
11. RCs and Prots are both stuck on this because they live in a 2D world on these matters instead of 4D


108 posted on 05/29/2008 6:37:44 AM PDT by Rippin
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