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To: MEGoody

I disagree. The ‘real’ Jesus is refering to here is what is eternal, not what is physical. After all, what is saved but our soul/spirit.


You realize this is heresy even for a Protestant don’t you? Oh, that’s right, the Holy Spirit is the only interepter and He told you this.

RE: My take:

The Lord is speaking to the community, as He often did and we over-individualize His words and create false dichotomies.

Spiritual does not exclude Physical. Specifically, do you believe Jesus still has a human body in heaven? If so, is it spiritual or physical? Answer is He DOES have a human body and it is physical and spiritual. He feeds us with His resurrected body because we ARE His body. He saved body, soul and spirit. Not soul or soul and spirit.

This whole reality is spiritually discerned in community in the Spirit. No individual isolated from the body will understand it even if in the end He takes some number of such into heaven. They will understand it then.

There is a new creation ‘in Christ.’ It is of a completely different aeon (the eighth day.) Trying to impose 7th day logic on this passage doesn’t work.


119 posted on 05/29/2008 7:54:49 AM PDT by Rippin
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To: Rippin
You realize this is heresy even for a Protestant don’t you?

How is it heresy for a Protestant?

Oh, that’s right, the Holy Spirit is the only interepter and He told you this.

Yep.

Specifically, do you believe Jesus still has a human body in heaven?

Yep, a glorified one, so it is different from our current physical bodies in that it is incorruptible.

If so, is it spiritual or physical?

Physical, but different from our earthly bodies.

He feeds us with His resurrected body because we ARE His body.

So we literally eat ourselves? Um, okay. By the way, the first time the apostles celebrated communion with Christ, He had not yet died and been raised. Are you saying Jesus reached into the future, pulled some of His resurrected flesh back through the 'corridor of time' and fed it to his apostles? Also, what about the believers in Christ who were not present at that event? Were they not saved because they didn't eat of this time-traveling flesh?

He saved body, soul and spirit. Not soul or soul and spirit.

Yes, we will receive glorified bodies on resurrection day, but once we pass from this life, our 'bodyless' spirit is with God until that day.

This whole reality is spiritually discerned in community in the Spirit.

So a person who is cut off from the community due to being in prison for his/her faith or whatever cannot discern such things?

There is a new creation ‘in Christ.’

Indeed, and we as new creations don't need to keep being recreated by cannibalizing the flesh of Jesus repeatedly over our lifetimes.

Trying to impose 7th day logic on this passage doesn’t work.

Whatever that means.

120 posted on 05/29/2008 8:37:04 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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