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To: To Hell With Poverty

By your reasoning, a couple incapable of conceiving a child should not have sex? Post-menopausal women, those with infertility issues, etc. have sex for a number of reasons - conceiving a child is not one of them. I suppose you might call it recreational sex. Self-serving? Why? It involves mutuality, love, concern for the other - all certainly sacramental, if by sacramental you intend a means of experiencing grace.


15 posted on 05/23/2008 9:13:57 PM PDT by PresbyRev
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To: PresbyRev

Um, no.

Sterility is not usually willed, and otherwise healthy, moral people who are sterile would be overjoyed if they conceived despite their apparent sterility.

Mutuality, love and concern for others which has been closed off to sharing those gifts with a third party are not fully healthy.


16 posted on 05/23/2008 9:17:31 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: PresbyRev
All good points, but the people you cite aren't making that separation (sex from procreation) themselves.

Besides, by your own reasoning God can overcome those situations, too. Like the couples who give up trying to conceive, adopt, then shortly thereafter become pregnant. ;)

17 posted on 05/23/2008 9:29:23 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (I'll take a "third Bush term" over a second Carter term ANY DAY!)
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To: PresbyRev; To Hell With Poverty
By your reasoning, a couple incapable of conceiving a child should not have sex?
Strawman argument there "Rev". Won't wash, isn't what was said. If infertile married couples have sex, sometimes we find out they aren't fully infertile. Those that are by God's Will still leave themselves open to His Will, got it?
26 posted on 05/24/2008 6:16:29 AM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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