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To: roamer_1; annalex
I would say, as a Catholic, that even I have trouble believing the Church saved me. It didn't; Jesus did.

Once saved, I became part of the Church. I obey her teachings, as I know they come through Jesus. I would definitely struggle, however, through any teaching, doctrine or dogma that was opposed to what Jesus instructed.

Suppose one says that they were saved in Jesus, but the vehicle that led them to Him was the Bible. This would certainly be in line with Evangelical believe, no?. So I could say, as a Catholic, that I was saved in Jesus, but the vehicle that brought me to Him was the Church and the Bible that the Church teaches.

I cannot subscribe to the idea that the Church has any value or power EXCEPT through Christ.

46 posted on 05/17/2008 5:19:31 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!

Amen, Alas Babylon.


48 posted on 05/17/2008 5:34:42 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Alas Babylon!; annalex
I would say, as a Catholic, that even I have trouble believing the Church saved me. It didn't; Jesus did.

AMEN, and that is the proper view.

Suppose one says that they were saved in Jesus, but the vehicle that led them to Him was the Bible. This would certainly be in line with Evangelical believe, no?. So I could say, as a Catholic, that I was saved in Jesus, but the vehicle that brought me to Him was the Church and the Bible that the Church teaches.

Certainly much better, and that, I hope, would be the prevailing view.

I cannot subscribe to the idea that the Church has any value or power EXCEPT through Christ.

We are in agreement. Thank you for your clarifying post.

50 posted on 05/17/2008 6:37:40 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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