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To: Religion Moderator; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; xzins; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; ...
However, on the ecumenic thread, the poster must not argue against any other beliefs. He can only argue for what he believes

Respectfully, this "new thread" classification in effect nullifies the very purpose for the Reformation.

If a Catholic thread is posted saying "Mary is the co-Redeemer" (as there have been many already) how is a Protestant supposed to reply with anything other than by the negative "No, Mary is NOT a 'co-redeemer' because according to the Bible, there is ONE only propitiation for our sins, ONE mediator between God and men, ONE Redeemer, Jesus Christ?"

My belief is against that belief. It cannot be otherwise. And what the Catholic doesn't realize is that saying "Mary is a co-redeemer" is offensive to me because we are both considered Christians and yet as a Christian I do not believe that in any way. In fact, that sentence repels me.

Rules like this simply defy the last 500 years of religious history.

Additionally, this "new kind of thread" appears to reward posters who refused to learn how to post within the FR religion forum guidelines. Whining while "making it personal" apparently can pay off.

It seems that the failed "respectful thread" designation has simply morphed into the "ecumenic thread" designation, only this time the penalty for protesting error will be more severe.

29 posted on 05/14/2008 10:08:35 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
The open threads are the proper format for arguing against others' beliefs.

If a Catholic thread is posted saying "Mary is the co-Redeemer" (as there have been many already) how is a Protestant supposed to reply with anything other than by the negative "No, Mary is NOT a 'co-redeemer' because according to the Bible, there is ONE only propitiation for our sins, ONE mediator between God and men, ONE Redeemer, Jesus Christ?"

You would reply in the "for" - using the last part of your example:

According to the Bible, which I believe is the final authority, there is ONE propitiation for our sins, ONE mediator between God and men, ONE Redeemer, Jesus Christ.


34 posted on 05/14/2008 10:16:28 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; xzins; P-Marlowe; ...
Respectfully, this "new thread" classification in effect nullifies the very purpose for the Reformation

I've been saying the same thing for a long time: the Reformation is intrinsically a negative movement built in opposition to the Catholic Church and incapable of standing on its own.

39 posted on 05/14/2008 10:20:42 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

>>If a Catholic thread is posted saying “Mary is the co-Redeemer” (as there have been many already) how is a Protestant supposed to reply with anything other than by the negative “No, Mary is NOT a ‘co-redeemer’ because according to the Bible, there is ONE only propitiation for our sins, ONE mediator between God and men, ONE Redeemer, Jesus Christ?”

My belief is against that belief. It cannot be otherwise. And what the Catholic doesn’t realize is that saying “Mary is a co-redeemer” is offensive to me because we are both considered Christians and yet as a Christian I do not believe that in any way. In fact, that sentence repels me<<

I guess we all have to be a little less repelled, don’t we?


45 posted on 05/14/2008 10:24:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

TRUE ENOUGH, DEAR HEART.

HOWEVER,

we have sufficient opportunity to post our own threads quite open about any topic we wish.

I applaud the beleagured RM for trying to bring some . . . workableness to the intense emotions and contrasting, competing sensibilities and sensitivities hereon.

At some point, the thin-skinned folks will need to realize that their whining is just that and grossly out of place on such a forum.

Any thread designation that helps the RM’s job and helps bring some fairer, more even-handed handling of the situation—especially when our beloved RM is occupied otherwise—is MOST WELCOME, to me.

I’m quite willing to give it more than a college try.


52 posted on 05/14/2008 10:29:08 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator; sandyeggo; annalex
Respectfully, this "new thread" classification in effect nullifies the very purpose for the Reformation

There you go, RM. You have exposed yourself as a Papist-sympathizer. ;-)

53 posted on 05/14/2008 10:30:02 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If the angels could be jealous of men, they would be so for one reason: Holy Communion." -M. Kolbe)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Looks like some of our RC friends have cried ‘foul’ enough times to get their way. Hmm. Are some of them afraid to argue that their beliefs are true? I can only hope that God will convict them of the truth, but some hearts won’t allow that, I’m sure. Sad about that.


67 posted on 05/14/2008 10:39:56 AM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It seems that the failed "respectful thread" designation has simply morphed into the "ecumenic thread" designation, only this time the penalty for protesting error will be more severe.

Dr. E. I suspect some threads will die of their own weight and boredom. You may have noted "Caucus" threads have a few "regulars", live a short life, and go away.

If we find the "open" thread to be the only vibrant one it will move to the front and have the most participants.

In some ways it is similar to all the "free" offers available with any new computer. I decline them all and go on my way, choosing only what is meaningful to me.

107 posted on 05/14/2008 11:08:59 AM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Religion Moderator; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; xzins; P-Marlowe; ...
It seems that the failed "respectful thread" designation has simply morphed into the "ecumenic thread" designation, only this time the penalty for protesting error will be more severe.

FWIW, it strikes me as appeasement to the "squeaky wheel". I thought conservatives were different than liberals. I thought we could "fight it out" in the world of ideas without worrying about "hurting someones feelings". The caucus threads are a place for conversation with no disagreement, or devotional threads.

Posters always have the option to ignore those posters they don't believe offer anything of importance to the discussion.

199 posted on 05/14/2008 12:25:58 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Mary is a co-redeemer” is offensive to me

If you don’t like the new rules, get out of Dodge.

Lurking’


879 posted on 05/24/2008 1:03:54 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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