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And that has to do with the original assertion of yours the Fair has always been supported by the church? (nothing) Who knows and who cares what they spent their money on as a private non profit, as a part of BYU, it's published in the budget somewhere...

When was their (FARMS) Internet website set up – before or after they affiliated with Deserte Books or BYU ?

Really? You assert that they were supported by the Church, Prove it, you can't, cool... I don't have to prove anything, you are the one saying they were a part of the church from the beginning...

That came out of the mouth of your former President. Doubt the founder of the organization was acting in a vacuum.

Yes, I do say that I am not paid by the church, do you have any proof other than you think I am a liar that says otherwise? (crickets...)

I know that your are contextually challenged at times, the free statement was in regards to the professionals at FARMS/Maxwell – not you. Put your victim card away.

I did not insult Jim, he has done a wonderful work here which you twist far from it's political purpose in attacking a religion with his site. IMHO you are a poor house guest.

Incase you haven’t figured it out, this thread is in a Religion forum hosted by FR. Not that you don’t attack other religions. Nor are the forums here for unchallenged promotion of a specific religion over others.

When I started posting here in 2003, it was a not for profit, in 2005 the dinosaur media managed to get that stripped in an attempt to force postings here to be excerpts not full articles. FR started as a Not for Profit, just like FAIR, and like FAIR is not now.

That doesn’t change what it is now does it. Secondly, since you are changing the subject to FAIR vs FARMS/Maxwell, they do so under a 501c3. Since FR is not a church, different IRS tax codes apply, so you logic crashes on that account.

You admit my point, but only for football? LOL! College departments are multi million dollar enterprises, and BYU like any other college that is supported by a church has a large religion department, how much does the Catholic church spend on their web sites (since you brought up new advent)?

And they (BYU/FARMS/Maxwell) pay them salaries to do so. The individuals are getting money to promote their religious views, so they are profiting from the spreading of mormonism. So because they are profiting from spreading the cause of mormonism they are exempt from filty lucre?

I find it humorous that you accuse non-mormons who receive money for doing the same. AFAIAK, the Catholic (or any other church) can spend as much as they want, that is not corrupted as you make it out to be. People working in the church (including ministers) have the right to receive pay and support. If you disagree, then you need to look no further than your church to see the hypocrisy.

You assert that FAIR

The organization being discussed was FARMS/Maxwell – getting your acronyms mixed up.

So, I ask a questions and you refuse to answer... LOL!

You were given the tool to find out in another post.

LOL! Now you are denying (in an oh so deniable way denying) that you ever said that, Tennessee Nana, didn't you say that increased your esteem for Godzilla? What's your opinion now that he refuses to admit what he said earlier? Who is obfuscating here, the guy who is refusing to admit if he is paid or not, or the guy asking for clarification? what say you Nana?

Keep living in your fantasy world DU. But obviously you haven’t figured that out yet.

When was their (FARMS) Internet website set up – before or after they affiliated with Deserte Books or BYU ?

Before (that's why they had to move it...)

That came out of the mouth of your former President.

Which former president said FARMS was a church creation from the Beginning?

Doubt the founder of the organization was acting in a vacuum.

You can express your doubt all you want, you stated a fact that the organization was supported by the church from the beginning.

Put your victim card away.

Dang...

Incase you haven’t figured it out, this thread is in a Religion forum hosted by FR.

Actually, I got that, but thanks for checking to make sure.

Not that you don’t attack other religions.

I try really hard not to, but when you use a point of attack that is based on the falseness of your religion, it's hard not to be seen as attacking when all I am doing is telling the truth. I am not attacking and I can prove that, look at my history and find just one post where I have gone to thread about another religion and started telling them they are wrong, sinners, or Damned.

Nor are the forums here for unchallenged promotion of a specific religion over others.

Nor are they supposed to be for the unreasonable attack of a specific religion by those who disagree with it.

That doesn’t change what it is now does it.

So you are admitting that you were wrong and it didn't start as a church funded site?

Secondly, since you are changing the subject to FAIR vs FARMS/Maxwell,

Not intentionally, it was a slip on my part, and I beg your pardon.

they do so under a 501c3. Since FR is not a church, different IRS tax codes apply, so you logic crashes on that account.

Actually, a 501(c) covers most not for profits, not just Churches. (un-crash here)

And they (BYU/FARMS/Maxwell) pay them salaries to do so. The individuals are getting money to promote their religious views, so they are profiting from the spreading of Mormonism.

Wait, so your contention is that a Church owned university that actually makes money for the church, having a religious website, and that if they actually support the Church they believe in they are making money from the church and not the university? ROTFLOL!

So because they are profiting from spreading the cause of Mormonism they are exempt from filty lucre?

According to the Bible, "clergy" should be for free, no one should teach the gospel professionally. That does not mean no one should sell a religious book, or get paid to clean a church, or in this case get paid to run a web site. you can even get paid to do research, but teaching the love of Jesus, that should be from your heart and for free.

If you think that running a web site is for filthy lucre, I'd have to ask you to log off and go away, chuckle...

I find it humorous that you accuse non-Mormons who receive money for doing the same. AFAIAK, the Catholic (or any other church) can spend as much as they want, that is not corrupted as you make it out to be. People working in the church (including ministers) have the right to receive pay and support.

If it was just me thinking it, I wouldn't have bothered to comment, the Bible says so, I'm sure you'll agree with me on this, my opinion is irrelevant.

IMHO, God wants people to owe him their loyalty, not a church which is paying the bills.

Again, that's my opinion, it's worth every penny you are paying for it, maybe more.

If you disagree, then you need to look no further than your church to see the hypocrisy.

I do disagree, and my church is not hypocritical, my dad was a bishop for over ten years without getting paid one red cent, he had a day job...

The organization being discussed was FARMS/Maxwell – getting your acronyms mixed up.

I apologized for that earlier.

You were given the tool to find out in another post.

Your page was less than informative on if you were ever paid by a church to preach.

Keep living in your fantasy world DU. But obviously you haven’t figured that out yet.

And you in yours...