| This thread has been locked, it will not receive new replies. |
|
Locked on 07/12/2009 6:01:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator, reason:
Locked. |
Posted on 05/08/2008 5:04:47 PM PDT by Grig
But if you drink your Postum hot, don't you violate The Word of Wisdom? (see D&C 89:9) just as much?
(Maybe that's not really a problem...after all, Joseph Smith and his buddies fortified themselves with wine after he was arrested for ordering the destruction of the opposition press. It's more of a suggestion than a rule, right?)
No, my comment about the frozen chosen was a throwaway line to exit the topic of which church is the right church.
I believe that the only requirement for salvation is a faith in Christ Jesus, and Him crucified. A CORRECT faith is a trinitarian faith, one that believes in the scriptures, that does not elevate what is not in scripture, etc.
But a correct faith is not necessary for salvation. And for whatever incorrect aspects of faith Mormons are confronted with in their teachings, they CAN have a saving faith in Christ Jesus. While some will argue the WORDS have a different meaning, the words each person utters will have the meaning THEY intend, not what the church has tried to make them.
I still witness to my Mormon friends. Take no chances, that’s my motto. But I won’t condemn them to hell — that is God’s job. My job is to clearly articulate MY understanding of scripture, not to judge whether someone else has reached an understanding.
And yes, I can reconcile witnessing with my belief that God chooses us. But I do understand the apparent contradiction.
I won't name names, I won't go down that rabbit hole again.
I agree with most of what you said. I have a nutty uncle who belongs to the black helicopter crowd when it comes to religion. All religions except his are doomed!
I don't know any Mormons; I do know some Seventh Day Adventists and I know very little about their faith. I just know that they go to church on Saturday. I love them dearly and I would never bring up their religion.
Its a lot easier to discuss and argue religion with complete strangers on the web. In person is good too as long as things don't get personal.
As for Scientology, I think that religion is whacked. Made up by a weirdo. :)
My term “general claim” was not meant as a contrast to a specific claim, but to reference the entirety of the discussion, outside the specific example of one faith and practice.
Parts of that are interpretation of scripture. While we may agree on that interpretation, in my opinion you do not need to confess in that manner in order to be saved. The man on the cross with Jesus said much less and was accepted into Paradise.
If you are not careful, you will get the Christian evolutionists on your case. They tend not to like the idea that Jesus created things.
So did Brigham Young. There were vineyards in So. Utah to make their own sacramental wine. The word of wisdom was “Given for a principle with promise, adapted to the capacity of the weak and the weakest of all saints, who are or can be called saints.”
http://scriptures.lds.org/dc/89/3#3
The adoption of it as a commandment rather than merely a principle happened as the new church and new converts who spent their whole lives drinking and smoking put off the natural man. That took a generation. I’m grateful, as Isaiah said, that the Lord gives us line upon line, precept on precept, here a little, there a little.
We aren’t expected to run faster than we have strength.
I really don't know of the repression and forced conformism. All of the control appears to begin within the family, moving upward. With their Church government being an oligarchy, there is a propensity to be very dogmatic, but I see that as one reason they have retained their strong family values.
The secrecy and resentment is understood from the need to cloak or defuse the inconsistencies and scandals inherent in the earliest beginnings. I am still amazed when I reread Mark Twain's firsthand account and later journalistic revelations.
As you responded, I will repeat my apology here. You obviously have no need to ping a banned freeper, something I did not know when I pinged him.
I can do whatever I want but I want to follow the Word of Wisdom. I have no idea why that ticks you off.
As I certainly do not read every post, I can’t say you are wrong. I’ll just say I haven’t read any defenses of polygamy. And since I have been accused of defending polygamy when I don’t believe in it, I do view with some suspicion claims that others have advanced the practice.
as long as some insist on preaching to other freepers they can expect more and more freepers to distrust or dislike Mormons.....some of you really come across as arrogant....
I've known a ton of Mormons.........work with them..live next to at least one.. belong to the same groups etc...No one has ever openly tried to sermonize anyone... NO Mormon that I know has ever even brought up the subject of them being Mormon except if its a direct question....
so why would any Mormons do it on a blog that is centered on news and politics?
I’ve got to move on. Good night, all.
Here is a Catholic link to help you understand the Catholic take on the Mormon religion.
http://www.catholic.com/library/noncatholic_groups.asp
if its the policy now to allow blatant religious sermoning on the main threads, I guess that is news to me....perhaps this should be clarified....
You are on the Religion Forum.
Illbay, now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. What ever happened to him?
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.