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The Short Version (the Way International convert)
Coming Home Network ^ | Nov 22nd, 2006 | Aaron

Posted on 05/05/2008 2:22:52 PM PDT by annalex

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1 posted on 05/05/2008 2:22:52 PM PDT by annalex
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To: Always Right; Antoninus; ArrogantBustard; CTK YKC; dan1123; DogwoodSouth; FourtySeven; HarleyD; ...
Tonight's guest on the Journey Home is Stephen Budd, Former Baptist Evangelical.

LINK

50 Days of Easter 2008 Celebration ping, dedicated to converts to the Catholic faith. If you want to be on the list but are not on it already, or if you are on it but do not want to be, let me know either publicly or privately.

Happy Easter. Christ is risen!

Alex.


Previously posted conversion stories:

Anti-Catholicism, Hypocrisy and Double Standards
Hauled Aboard the Ark
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part I: Darkness
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part II: Doubts
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part III: Tradition and Church
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part IV: Crucifix and Altar
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part V: The Catholics and the Pope
Why I Returned to the Catholic Church. Part VI: The Biblical Reality
His Open Arms Welcomed Me
Catholic Conversion Stories & Resources
My Personal Conversion Story
My (Imminent) Reception into the Roman Catholic Church
Catholics Come Home
My Journey of Faith
LOGIC AND THE FOUNDATIONS OF PROTESTANTISM
"What is Truth?" An Examination of Sola Scriptura
"Have you not read?" The Authority behind Biblical Interpretation
The Crisis of Authority in the Reformation
Our Journey Home
Our Lady’s Gentle Call to Peace
A story of conversion at the Lamb of God Shrine
Who is Mary of Nazareth?
Mary and the Problem of Christian Unity
Why I'm Catholic
A Convert's Response to Friends
My Story
Courage to Be Catholic
Finally Catholic! My Conversion to the Catholic Church
Southern Baptist Pastor Leaves Everything for the Eucharist

Also see:
Sheep That Go Astray
Pope Benedict Goes to Washington Ecumenical Meeting at St. Joseph's Church, New York
Orthodox and Catholic Churches are allies, (Orthodox) Bishop Hilarion says

2 posted on 05/05/2008 2:26:00 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

A converted Lutheran here. Pinging for a read tomorrow.


3 posted on 05/05/2008 2:28:26 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: ladtx

Welcome home. God bless.


4 posted on 05/05/2008 2:29:10 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

What a wanderer. At least he’s into a trinitarian church now.


5 posted on 05/05/2008 3:15:04 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: Lee N. Field

Looks like he tried every major trinitarian denomination except Methodist, too.


6 posted on 05/05/2008 3:23:11 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
I desired the two things the Israelites squabbled over in the Old Testament—Authority and Food. I found both in the Catholic Church.

I like this observation very much.

7 posted on 05/05/2008 3:55:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: Tax-chick
This entire piece brings a smile to my face each time I re-read it. A high-brow treatise it is not, but it touches the heart.

my mother had me Baptized Catholic

There is no other way, really. One is either baptized Catholic or not baptized at all. "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins". Still, it is intriguing how his mother baptized him in a Catholic Church. So, who got him into the Way?

8 posted on 05/05/2008 4:06:36 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Good point about baptism. Maybe the “long version” of his story explains what “The Way” is and how he became involved.

I liked his comments about Father Corapi. I feel the same way - I could listen to him forever.


9 posted on 05/05/2008 4:22:33 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: annalex

I love this part:

“I reached a point in my journey where I was actually evangelizing other Catholics. A few don’t know or don’t live their faith well enough in my humble opinion. I was attending Mass, but not receiving our Lord’s body and blood. It drove me crazy—especially watching a few other Christians take Holy Communion in such a cavalier way. I often wondered why the Confessional lines were so small, but the Communion lines so large.”

Reminds me that we Orthodox aren’t the only ones plagued with “Oh So Very Holy Converts!” :) This character seems to have a full blown case of crazy convert disease. Luckily most of them straighten out...or move on to find holier people.


10 posted on 05/05/2008 4:46:03 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Tax-chick
The Way International is a religious organization founded by Victor Paul Wierwille. It claims a founding date of 1942, the year Wierwille began his Vesper Chimes radio program, a.k.a. the Chimes Hour Youth Caravan. The Way describes itself as a Christian biblical research, teaching and fellowship ministry that teaches others how to understand the Bible and operate the "9 manifestations of holy spirit". Critics accuse the group of being a cult; some point out inconsistencies between The Way's doctrines and orthodox Christianity. This group is non-trinitarian and believes Jesus Christ is the savior and the Son of God, but not God Himself.

Wiki

One way to NOT baptize your children...

11 posted on 05/05/2008 5:04:11 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: Kolokotronis

I hear you.

Bear in mind, however, that the Protestants largely leave the Orthodox alone, while we Catholics receive a lot of attention and tensions run high in both direction.


12 posted on 05/05/2008 5:07:26 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Please take me off your ping list. Your arrogance and ill towards other Christian repulses me. I’ll pray for you to be delivered from such.


13 posted on 05/05/2008 5:15:35 PM PDT by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Always Right

You are off and prayed for. Thank you for your prayers. Where do you see ill will on my part?


14 posted on 05/05/2008 5:34:18 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Okay, thanks. There sure is a lot of different stuff out there.


15 posted on 05/05/2008 5:38:32 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Curtis Blackwood for State Rep! Jeff Gerber for County Commissioner! Vote early and often!)
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To: NYer

Catholic ping


16 posted on 05/05/2008 5:53:31 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: annalex
The posting kind of reminds me of a couple threads from last year sometime. One where EWTN was crowing that they'd roped themselves a Calvinist. Come to find out, with a little bit of Google-ing, that this individual had been lots of different things -- Mason, Episcopagan, and I don't remember what-all else. In the other, the guy had left the Church of Rome, and spent decades being a preacher in (IIRC) various different, progressively more dubious varieties of American protestantism, from fundamental baptist, to Adventist, to some really deep end stuff Penecostalist sect .

It's not healthy to wander that much in one lifetime.

17 posted on 05/05/2008 6:26:22 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: Lee N. Field

Chapter 1. He Proclaims the Greatness of God, Whom He Desires to Seek and Invoke, Being Awakened by Him.

1. Great are You, O Lord, and greatly to be praised; great is Your power, and of Your wisdom there is no end. And man, being a part of Your creation, desires to praise You, man, who bears about with him his mortality, the witness of his sin, even the witness that Thou resistest the proud, — yet man, this part of Your creation, desires to praise You. Thou movest us to delight in praising You; for You have formed us for Yourself, and our hearts are restless till they find rest in You. Lord, teach me to know and understand which of these should be first, to call on You, or to praise You; and likewise to know You, or to call upon You. But who is there that calls upon You without knowing You? For he that knows You not may call upon You as other than You are. Or perhaps we call on You that we may know You. But how shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? or how shall they believe without a preacher? Romans 10:14 And those who seek the Lord shall praise Him. For those who seek shall find Him, Matthew 7:7 and those who find Him shall praise Him. Let me seek You, Lord, in calling on You, and call on You in believing in You; for You have been preached unto us. O Lord, my faith calls on You,— that faith which You have imparted to me, which You have breathed into me through the incarnation of Your Son, through the ministry of Your preacher.

Chapter 2. That the God Whom We Invoke is in Us, and We in Him.

2. And how shall I call upon my God— my God and my Lord? For when I call on Him I ask Him to come into me. And what place is there in me into which my God can come— into which God can come, even He who made heaven and earth? Is there anything in me, O Lord my God, that can contain You? Do indeed the very heaven and the earth, which You have made, and in which You have made me, contain You? Or, as nothing could exist without You, does whatever exists contain You? Why, then, do I ask You to come into me, since I indeed exist, and could not exist if You were not in me? Because I am not yet in hell, though You are even there; for if I go down into hell You are there. I could not therefore exist, could not exist at all, O my God, unless You were in me. Or should I not rather say, that I could not exist unless I were in You from whom are all things, by whom are all things, in whom are all things? Romans 11:36 Even so, Lord; even so. Where do I call You to, since You are in me, or whence canst Thou come into me? For where outside heaven and earth can I go that from thence my God may come into me who has said, I fill heaven and earth? Jeremiah 23:24

The Confessions (Book I)


18 posted on 05/05/2008 6:51:08 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Good point. I suspect, though, that the individuals I was thinking about aren’t anywhere near as deep and reflective as Augustine.


19 posted on 05/05/2008 7:20:22 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Think of it as...an eschatological intrusion." BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM!! BOOOM!!)
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To: annalex

Sounds a bit like the ‘Donut Man’ who bounced from group to group. In neither case is it likely that the current stop will be the last.


20 posted on 05/05/2008 8:24:19 PM PDT by PAR35
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