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Bill Donohue: Over the line?
dotCommonweal ^ | David Gibson

Posted on 05/03/2008 6:58:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Bill Donohue may not be tired of the culture wars–or internecine Catholic wars. The head of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is often over the top in denunciations of anti-Catholicism, real or perceived, and of other Catholics who Donohue sees as not toeing the proper Catholic line. But even Donohue may have outdone himself, and done in his own organization, if his latest press release prompts an IRS investigation.

The May 2 release is “Catholic Dissidents Advise Obama,” and it draws down on Obama’s Catholic National Advisory Committee, which includes several Commonwealers, such as Cathleen Kaveny and Grant Gallicho. It also includes Catholics in public and religious life, ranging from Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania to the Sister of St. Joseph, Sr. Catherine Pinkerton. Also included are more than a few writers and theologians whose work I have long admired. Point of disclosure: I have also known Bill Donohue for years, and while I think he is completely wrongheaded many times, and inimical to the church’s well-being other times, he can also be a good guy to have a beer with, as well as someone who does not run from an argument, and an advocate who can point out indisputable cases of anti-Catholicism that still persist.

That said, this latest blast is way outta line. Donohue not only labels these Obama-advising Catholics as “dissidents” but he says “Practicing Catholics have every right to be insulted by Obama’s advisory group”–setting up Catholics who back Obama as bad Catholics and opponents of Obama, by implication, as good Catholics. Donohue employs his favorite trick of the invidious–and distorting–comparison, saying he wouldn’t have gay advisors who “don’t reflect the sentiment of the gay community”–as if these Obama-backers don’t reflect Catholic opinion. (In fact, they largely do. Not that this should be about public opinion, no?)

In his closing, Donohue takes a real potshot, saying that “If these are the best ‘committed Catholic leaders, scholars and advocates’ Obama can find, then it is evident that he has a ‘Wright’ problem when it comes to picking Catholic advisors.” As if these Catholics–check out the list–are the equivalent of Jeremiah Wright…!

But let me dissect this a bit more analytically. I see four chief problems.

One is that Donohue bases his criticism of these dozens of advisors principally on the “scores” that the abortion rights group NARAL gives some of the political figures on the committee (conveniently not mentioning the presence of Democrats Bob Casey and Tim Roemer, also on Obama’s committee, who have taken stands against abortion rights in many cases). Donohue also states that Obama’s pol pals do not agree with the church’s “three major public policy issues: abortion, embryonic stem cell research and school vouchers.” That is a rather selective list, in that the bishops’ own statement on political participation, titled “Faithful Citizenship,” lists seven principal policy areas, and they include “Option for the Poor and Vulnerable,” “Dignity of Work and the Rights of Workers,” and “Caring for God’s Creation.” Not to mention the church’s opposition to the Iraq War, which John McCain wants to continue.

Indeed, while Donohue has criticized McCain’s alliance with the rock-ribbed televangelist and preacher of standard anti-Catholic rhetoric, John Hagee, he has not brought similar scrutiny to McCain’s own Catholic advisory board.

And that raises the second problem, which was noted by the liberal group, Catholics United, namely that Donohue’s apparent partisanship could jeopardize the League’s 501c3 non-profit status. Catholics United also cites passages from “Onward Christian Solders,” a new book by Deal Hudson–a longtime GOP advisor–that show how Donohue has been active in helping the Bush White House and the Republican Party woo the Catholic vote.

This adds up to a big potential problem for Donohue. Yet it also adds up to a big payday for him. As the League’s publicly-available financial forms show, Donohue takes in a whopping $343,000 a year in salary and compensation. He can rightly claim that he has turned the League from a penny-ante mom-and-pop shop into the $20-million-dollar a year culture war machine that it is. But while few would disagree with fighting anti-Catholicism, I wonder how many will see Donohue as getting rich off anti-Catholicism.

A final point: Pope Benedict XVI, who Donohue spares no effort to defend, even when the pontiff is not under attack, made an explicit call during last month’s visit for Catholics to seek unity, not division. I’m not sure how Donohue’s internecine and potentially partisan sniping achieves that end, or even how attacking other Catholics connects with fighting anti-Catholicism.


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To: Judith Anne

The March of the Catholic-Hating Fetishists stomps on into the night.


421 posted on 05/09/2008 10:42:51 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Judith Anne; Religion Moderator; All
I wonder if that's what is bothering our protestant friends, that Catholics have caucus threads where their insults, mocking, denigrating are not allowed...

I've never heard of any complaint by a Protestant that there are caucus threads by any group.

According to the RF rules, caucus threads do not invoke other religions, but simply discuss their own as if one were in a church.

An excellent rule which then permits deeper discussion of theological perspectives on the open forum.

422 posted on 05/09/2008 10:43:08 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

On the other hand, “respectful dialogue” is a diabolical fascist plot.


424 posted on 05/09/2008 10:44:10 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: sandyeggo
Ah yes, the good old days.
425 posted on 05/09/2008 10:45:21 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Petronski; Quix; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; HarleyD; wmfights; ...
DR.E: IMO Catholicism deifies Mary by calling her a "co-redeemer."

PETRONSKI: You are wrong, as has been demonstrated dozens of times. You do not get to decide what we believe. We do.

For the record...

I do not believe Petronski believes Catholicism deifies Mary. His evidence for this belief has been fairly thin so far, but he's entitled to believe whatever he wants.

Also for the record...

I do believe Catholicism deifies Mary because Catholicism considers Mary to be a "co-redeemer" and a "dispensatrix of all grace," which is in direct opposition to the evidence found in God's holy word which states...

"For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus" -- 1 Timothy 2:5

427 posted on 05/09/2008 10:51:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Do you have an example of any of that, or is it just more hot air?


428 posted on 05/09/2008 10:53:34 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: sandyeggo

If all disagreement is seen as a lie and worthy only of silencing, then what point is there is a religion forum?


429 posted on 05/09/2008 10:56:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne
Do you have an example of any of that, or is it just more hot air?

lol. If someone has to read this thread to you, then I'm sorry. You'll have to find someone else.

430 posted on 05/09/2008 10:58:15 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Since learning what a caucus thread is, I tend to avoid catholic caucus threads.

BTW, a catholic caucus thread basically has a big "NO PROTESTANTS ALLOWED" sign. ;)
(caucus threads are CLOSED treads)

The catholics can post as many caucus threads as they like.

Why should they complain about non-catholics posting non-caucus threads?

We let them have their closed threads, and we let them post on our discussion threads.


Somebody needs to grow up.
431 posted on 05/09/2008 11:00:41 PM PDT by Fichori (FreeRepublic.com: Watch your step!)
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To: Judith Anne
Again, all disagreement with Rome is seen by many Catholics as "ridicule."

It's a Catch 22, but thankfully, the rules of civil discourse provide for disagreement.

433 posted on 05/09/2008 11:00:55 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Your repetition of the “Catholics deify Mary” charge is a red herring.

How about saving that for an appropriate thread and getting back on track?


434 posted on 05/09/2008 11:01:50 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
lol. If someone has to read this thread to you, then I'm sorry. You'll have to find someone else.

So, you don't have any examples of it. Because there are none.

435 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Petronski; Quix; Alex Murphy; 1000 silverlings; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
Again, you define "discussing the issues" as falsely telling us what we do or do not believe.

You know, I should just have cards printed and hand them out to you.

I'M NOT TELLING YOU WHAT YOU BELIEVE. I'M TELLING YOU WHAT I BELIEVE ABOUT YOUR BELIEFS, AND WHY I BELIEVE THEY ARE WRONG AND MINE ARE SCRIPTURAL. YOU'RE FREE TO SHOW ME WHERE I'M WRONG ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD. IF AND WHEN YOU DO, I'LL BE WAITING.

436 posted on 05/09/2008 11:04:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Judith Anne

No, but it’s apparently a problem for you.


438 posted on 05/09/2008 11:06:17 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: P-Marlowe
But I suspect when you picked it out you were, of course, trying to be crude. :-)

No, I wasn't, and I certainly wasn't trying to be insulting to anyone.

439 posted on 05/09/2008 11:07:19 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: 1000 silverlings

AMEN to every word. Maybe some of them get paid to be here. It sure feels like it.


440 posted on 05/09/2008 11:07:48 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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