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Bill Donohue: Over the line?
dotCommonweal ^ | David Gibson

Posted on 05/03/2008 6:58:15 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

Bill Donohue may not be tired of the culture wars–or internecine Catholic wars. The head of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights is often over the top in denunciations of anti-Catholicism, real or perceived, and of other Catholics who Donohue sees as not toeing the proper Catholic line. But even Donohue may have outdone himself, and done in his own organization, if his latest press release prompts an IRS investigation.

The May 2 release is “Catholic Dissidents Advise Obama,” and it draws down on Obama’s Catholic National Advisory Committee, which includes several Commonwealers, such as Cathleen Kaveny and Grant Gallicho. It also includes Catholics in public and religious life, ranging from Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania to the Sister of St. Joseph, Sr. Catherine Pinkerton. Also included are more than a few writers and theologians whose work I have long admired. Point of disclosure: I have also known Bill Donohue for years, and while I think he is completely wrongheaded many times, and inimical to the church’s well-being other times, he can also be a good guy to have a beer with, as well as someone who does not run from an argument, and an advocate who can point out indisputable cases of anti-Catholicism that still persist.

That said, this latest blast is way outta line. Donohue not only labels these Obama-advising Catholics as “dissidents” but he says “Practicing Catholics have every right to be insulted by Obama’s advisory group”–setting up Catholics who back Obama as bad Catholics and opponents of Obama, by implication, as good Catholics. Donohue employs his favorite trick of the invidious–and distorting–comparison, saying he wouldn’t have gay advisors who “don’t reflect the sentiment of the gay community”–as if these Obama-backers don’t reflect Catholic opinion. (In fact, they largely do. Not that this should be about public opinion, no?)

In his closing, Donohue takes a real potshot, saying that “If these are the best ‘committed Catholic leaders, scholars and advocates’ Obama can find, then it is evident that he has a ‘Wright’ problem when it comes to picking Catholic advisors.” As if these Catholics–check out the list–are the equivalent of Jeremiah Wright…!

But let me dissect this a bit more analytically. I see four chief problems.

One is that Donohue bases his criticism of these dozens of advisors principally on the “scores” that the abortion rights group NARAL gives some of the political figures on the committee (conveniently not mentioning the presence of Democrats Bob Casey and Tim Roemer, also on Obama’s committee, who have taken stands against abortion rights in many cases). Donohue also states that Obama’s pol pals do not agree with the church’s “three major public policy issues: abortion, embryonic stem cell research and school vouchers.” That is a rather selective list, in that the bishops’ own statement on political participation, titled “Faithful Citizenship,” lists seven principal policy areas, and they include “Option for the Poor and Vulnerable,” “Dignity of Work and the Rights of Workers,” and “Caring for God’s Creation.” Not to mention the church’s opposition to the Iraq War, which John McCain wants to continue.

Indeed, while Donohue has criticized McCain’s alliance with the rock-ribbed televangelist and preacher of standard anti-Catholic rhetoric, John Hagee, he has not brought similar scrutiny to McCain’s own Catholic advisory board.

And that raises the second problem, which was noted by the liberal group, Catholics United, namely that Donohue’s apparent partisanship could jeopardize the League’s 501c3 non-profit status. Catholics United also cites passages from “Onward Christian Solders,” a new book by Deal Hudson–a longtime GOP advisor–that show how Donohue has been active in helping the Bush White House and the Republican Party woo the Catholic vote.

This adds up to a big potential problem for Donohue. Yet it also adds up to a big payday for him. As the League’s publicly-available financial forms show, Donohue takes in a whopping $343,000 a year in salary and compensation. He can rightly claim that he has turned the League from a penny-ante mom-and-pop shop into the $20-million-dollar a year culture war machine that it is. But while few would disagree with fighting anti-Catholicism, I wonder how many will see Donohue as getting rich off anti-Catholicism.

A final point: Pope Benedict XVI, who Donohue spares no effort to defend, even when the pontiff is not under attack, made an explicit call during last month’s visit for Catholics to seek unity, not division. I’m not sure how Donohue’s internecine and potentially partisan sniping achieves that end, or even how attacking other Catholics connects with fighting anti-Catholicism.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
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To: Petronski

Fine with me.

The data would essentially result in the same stats.


361 posted on 05/09/2008 9:45:28 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix
I can’t find a single phrase in your response that resonates in the least remotely accurately to anything I said.

Odd, I quoted you.

362 posted on 05/09/2008 9:45:37 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Alex Murphy

I thought RC’s were familiar with

OUR FATHER WHO ART IN HEAVEN . . .

forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us.

= = =

So, is this another case of my ignorance of what the RC’s are, in fact, familiar with and not familiar with?


363 posted on 05/09/2008 9:46:59 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

Stats that show raging anti-Catholic fetishism?

Yeah, I agree.


364 posted on 05/09/2008 9:47:26 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Judith Anne

After how many twists, turns, editings, . . . of my words???

Fascinating, nonetheless.


365 posted on 05/09/2008 9:48:10 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Alex Murphy

You’re quite wrong. If you want forgiveness, seek repentance.


366 posted on 05/09/2008 9:48:24 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Quix
After how many twists, turns, editings, . . . of my words???

Demonstrate how many.

The number is zero.

367 posted on 05/09/2008 9:49:17 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Judith Anne

You’re bothered because Catholics get to post threads on FR, and you’re bothered because you don’t like the titles, and because we can post anytime we want?

= = =

If I were to respond candidly to this set of inaccurate phrases, I’d violate a request of the RM.


368 posted on 05/09/2008 9:49:54 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski

The opposite, actually.


369 posted on 05/09/2008 9:50:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski; Religion Moderator; Quix
Here's one: "Catholicism deifies Mary." It's demonstrably not true.

IMO Catholicism deifies Mary by calling her a "co-redeemer."

And anyone should have every right to say that anywhere on earth.

370 posted on 05/09/2008 9:58:37 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix
Here's your post #328:

We prottys have to endure

hostile, trolling, outrageously titled and stated RC posts and threads virtually 24/7.

You don’t hear us whining anything remotely close to the RC whines.

328 posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 10:57:39 PM by Quix

My post was a request for clarification, to ask you if Catholic posting privileges bother you, nothing more.

371 posted on 05/09/2008 10:01:26 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
IMO Catholicism deifies Mary by calling her a "co-redeemer."

You are wrong, as has been demonstrated dozens of times.

You do not get to decide what we believe. We do.

372 posted on 05/09/2008 10:02:34 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Quix
The opposite, actually.

You should add that to the end of all of your posts, or make it your tagline.

373 posted on 05/09/2008 10:04:10 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
IMO Catholicism deifies Mary by calling her a "co-redeemer."

And anyone should have every right to say that anywhere on earth.

Not on a Catholic caucus thread.

375 posted on 05/09/2008 10:05:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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To: sandyeggo

Anyone has every right to lie, anywhere on earth.


376 posted on 05/09/2008 10:05:38 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Judith Anne

The record reflects who bayed with howls of protest at the idea that some threads might be designated “respectful dialogue.” The record further reflects who swarmed to sabotage the test case with bluntly disrespectful posts (most of which I flagged at the time).


378 posted on 05/09/2008 10:07:57 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: sandyeggo

We know who is the father of all of that.

No thanks, I’ll stick with Christ.


379 posted on 05/09/2008 10:08:43 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: Religion Moderator; All

I wonder if that’s what is bothering our protestant friends, that Catholics have caucus threads where their insults, mocking, denigrating are not allowed...


380 posted on 05/09/2008 10:09:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Don't just do something! Stand there!)
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