[Quix]

My statement was carefully worded . . . something the RCP2 problem may obscure.

I said nothing about God using such

in addition I said nothing about God using OTHER factors, means, supernatural whatevers

to effect conversion.

I merely commented on the objective research on such matters. Of course, we Prottys are well aware of the RC magicsterical’s denial of normal historical, Biblical and dictionary realities . . . denial of a lot of normal reality, actually.

Thankfully, God has used a number of miraculous etc. influences not that dissimilar to the Damascus Road experience of Paul . . . in moving quite a number of former RC’s into a dynamic, alive, Holy Spirit led Protty Christian walk.

PRAISE GOD FOR THAT!

[papertyger]

if and when they are able and willing to face such facts.

...is not "merely commenting" on "objective research." It is an evaluation.

Funny, I always find much more carefully worded comments in extrication than in proposition.