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To: Petronski
Read the catechism again....yes it does. exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son...again here Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. These sections [966,969] 1) make Mary equal with Christ 2) Make Mary our intercessor and Savior.

You may not be able to read and understand the above equals an elevation to deity which equals worship, but I do.

Sola Scriptura does indeed appear in Scripture. II Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness." That verse clearly teaches that Scripture gives us all that we need to know. Not Popes, and not traditions.

Again Rev. 22:18 - "I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;" That verse clearly teaches we are not to add to 'prophecy'. That would equally apply to God's revealed Word = Scripture. Nothing any man teaches should ever contradict God's Word so it is indeed sola scriptura as the basis for truth.

Furthermore in Acts 17:11 the berean christians compared what a man came along and taught with SCRIPTURE, not a pope or an appeal to tradition, in order to determine if what was being said was true or not: "Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." Now if the Bereans examined what the Apostle Paul taught against the Scriptures that they had, how much more so are we to examine, oh I dunno, what a Pope says compared with Scripture? Hint: that's Sola Scriptura.

As far as sola Fide start with Romans then move on to Galatians. Romans 3:28 - For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Excuse me but I believe that verse clearly teaches 'faith alone' or sola fide. More: Romans 4:5; Ephesians 2:8 & 9; Titus 3:5; Galatians 2:16-21 (Galatians 2:16 - know that a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified).

565 posted on 05/05/2008 10:53:21 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: conservativegramma
You may not be able to read and understand the above equals an elevation to deity which equals worship...

It does not.

573 posted on 05/05/2008 10:56:44 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified).

Yes, Paul tells us we need not be circumcised to be saved, and he was right.

575 posted on 05/05/2008 10:57:39 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
"All" does not mean "only."

And "profitable" does not mean "sufficient."

Carry on demonstrating your reading skills.

576 posted on 05/05/2008 10:58:03 AM PDT by SoothingDave (Bang bang)
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To: conservativegramma

What outrageous blasphemy!

It’s a wonder authentic Christians’ blood doesn’t boil on reading that.


577 posted on 05/05/2008 10:58:35 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: conservativegramma
"Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true."

Impossible! I was told yesterday that reason and common sense are unnecessary if we have Truth.

578 posted on 05/05/2008 10:58:54 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma
Sola Scriptura does indeed appear in Scripture. II Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness." That verse clearly teaches that Scripture gives us all that we need to know.

That is not sola scriptura. It makes a statement about all Scripture, it does not say that Scripture is all we need.

580 posted on 05/05/2008 11:00:25 AM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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To: conservativegramma

Good work... gramma.. Unfortualty when boxed in a corner (by scripture) most RCC supporters turn into MOONBATs and fly on to the next post.. Are they VAmpires?.. Sadly some are.. As 8 Billion in legal expenses clear show..


583 posted on 05/05/2008 11:03:47 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: conservativegramma
Read the catechism again....yes it does. "exalted by the Lord as Queen over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son...again here Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.
These sections [966,969] 1) make Mary equal with Christ 2) Make Mary our intercessor and Savior. "

Many don't realize the depths of blasphemy that are contained in the catechism. Thank you for posting that reminder.

590 posted on 05/05/2008 11:09:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: conservativegramma
Romans 3:28 - For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Excuse me but I believe that verse clearly teaches 'faith alone' or sola fide.

Luther disagreed with you on that. He tried to add the word "sola" to his translation. His fraud was immediately caught.

Why would the father of sola scriptura attempt to modify Scripture, unless he felt that on its own it did not support his wild claim?

641 posted on 05/05/2008 12:59:08 PM PDT by Petronski (When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
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