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I would guess that many of us here envisioned the same place, but were rudely brought to reality. It's unfortunate, but it seems we must work with what we have.
That European cafe is what I want from the religion forum. Hour upon hour, but with respect.
I can smell the cigarettes and taste the rich stark espresso in the demitasse in my hand.
Just a place where I’m free to say “I think you believe X and I disagree” and the other guy is free to say “I don’t believe x, I believe non(x)...you missed (a) (b) and (c)” and I’m free to say “I don’t think I missed them, but I see why you agree non(x); I don’t agree, but I understand...”
And so on.