[Fichori]

"In Christ, all the saints are higher than the angels. (I thought that was not argued about. Oh my.)"

Well, here is what John had to say on the subject:

Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

John 22:9

[papertyger]

That saying of John has no relevance to the status of Mary. Why are you using it?

[Mad Dawg]

Thank you.

So you would apply that to the fully redeemed, blessed, sanctified, and resurrected saints in heaven?

"Fellow servants" yes, but though a general and a newly-minted 2nd louie are "fellow officers", it doesn't mean one doesn't outrank the other. And, of course, God wasn't "done with" John at that point.

Well it's a new thought for me. In the Old Covenant we are "A little lower than the angels" (maybe) but I guess my thinking was that we have a union with Christ more profound in its nature and astonishing in its consequences than angels do.

Humma humma (Noise of Dawg thinking ....)

Gotta go. Play nice, kiddies.