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To: conservativegramma
Prove from the New Testament that the power to intercede for sinners was granted to Mary rather than Christ alone. Prove also anywhere within the OLD or NEW testaments where God ever said the Mother of the Messiah would be without sin.

Do you ever pray for others? That is intercession. There is no reason to believe the Mother of Jesus has less ability to intercede than you do.

And Luke clearly says Mary is full of grace. You don't buy the implications of what this means, but that is due to you following a biased interpreter of the original Greek.

(I do, too but I admit my bias.)

IF you can't do that, do not say I need Christ, because I am not following extra-biblical teaching - you are. Pretty bold of you to follow a blasphemous doctrine about Mary and then claim "I" am the one who needs Christ

I didn't say you needed Christ. I think you mis-read me. I meant someone at some point helped you find Christ. Not that you needed someone now to help you. My point was not personal, but rather that everyone has someone who helps them to find salvation.

That is participation in the work of the Savior.

1,241 posted on 05/06/2008 5:50:06 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
Do you ever pray for others? That is intercession.

Yes, just as I'm doing for you right now. That is not to say that by praying I am helping save souls as your catechism does say regarding mary, nor am I calling myself, "Queen of all things", not am I placing a humongous statue of myself in the center of the altar of a Catholic Church in Evansville, IN larger and more prominent than Christ Himself! (And yes I've seen that).

1,244 posted on 05/06/2008 5:55:20 PM PDT by conservativegramma
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