The ONLY "extra-biblical teaching" discussed on this thread is the 16th Century invention of sola scriptura.
Prior to Gutenberg's invention of the printing press in the 15th Century ALL Bibles had to be scribed by hand. This made them extremely rare and affordable to only the most wealthy. God KNEW that it would be impossible for everyone to have their own Bibles for fifteen centuries AFTER His Resurrection. So, why do you believe that the Lord is so cruel as to have a plan for Salvation that He KNEW would be impossible to implement for a millennium and a half? Why do you believe He would make people suffer for so many centuries?
Because the lord you speak of is a dark and cruel lord contrived by the mind of a German monk.
Really? Let's see:
ST. IRENAEUS OF LYONS (130-202)
"We have known the method of our salvation by no other means than those by whom the gospel came to us; which gospel they truly preached; but afterward, by the will of God, they delivered to us in the Scriptures, to be for the future the foundation and pillar of our faith." (Adv. H. 3:1)
"Read more diligently that gospel which is given to us by the apostles; and read more diligently the prophets, and you will find every action and the whole doctrine of our Lord preached in them." (Adv. H. 4:66)
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA
"They that are ready to spend their time in the best things will not give over seeking for truth until they have found the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves." (Stromata 7:16:3)
ORIGEN
"In which (the two Testaments) every word that appertains to God may be required and discussed; and all knowledge may be understood out of them. But if anything remain which the Holy Scripture does not determine, no other third Scripture ought to be received for authorizing any knowledge or doctrine; but that which remains we must commit to the fire, that is, we will reserve it for God. For in this present world God would not have us to know all things." (Orig. in Lev., hom. 5, 9:6)
ST. CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE
"Whence comes this tradition? Does it descend from the Lord’s authority, or from the commands and epistles of the apostles? For those things are to be done which are there written. ... If it be commanded in the gospels or the epistles and Acts of the Apostles, then let this holy tradition be observed." (Ep. 74 ad Pompeium)
ST. ATHANASIUS OF ALEXANDRIA
"The Holy Scriptures, given by inspiration of God, are of themselves sufficient toward the discovery of truth." (Orat. adv. Gent., ad cap.)
ST. AMBROSE OF MILAN
"How can we use those things which we do not find in the Holy Scriptures?"(Ambr. Offic., 1:23)
ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM OF ANTIOCH AND BYZANTIUM (347-407)
"[The Scripture], ....like a safe door, denies an entrance to heretics, guarding us in safety in all things we desire, and not permitting us to be deceived. ...Whoever uses not the Scriptures, but comes in otherwise, that is, cuts out for himself a different and unlawful way, the same is a thief." (Homily 59, in Joh. 2:8)
"Formerly it might have been ascertained by various means which was the true church, but at present there is no other method left for those who are willing to discover the true church of Christ but by the Scriptures alone. And why? Because heresy has all outward observances in common with her. If a man, therefore, be desirous of knowing the true church, how will he be able to do it amid so great resemblance, but by the Scriptures alone? Wherefore our Lord, foreseeing that such a great confusion of things would take place in the latter days, ordered the Christians to have recourse to nothing but the Scriptures." (Hom. 9 in in 2 Tim. 1:9)
I hate to break it to you, but these guys lived before Luther.
Really? Let's see:
ST. IRENAEUS OF LYONS (130-202)
"We have known the method of our salvation by no other means than those by whom the gospel came to us; which gospel they truly preached; but afterward, by the will of God, they delivered to us in the Scriptures, to be for the future the foundation and pillar of our faith." (Adv. H. 3:1)
"Read more diligently that gospel which is given to us by the apostles; and read more diligently the prophets, and you will find every action and the whole doctrine of our Lord preached in them." (Adv. H. 4:66)
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA
"They that are ready to spend their time in the best things will not give over seeking for truth until they have found the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves." (Stromata 7:16:3)
ORIGEN
"In which (the two Testaments) every word that appertains to God may be required and discussed; and all knowledge may be understood out of them. But if anything remain which the Holy Scripture does not determine, no other third Scripture ought to be received for authorizing any knowledge or doctrine; but that which remains we must commit to the fire, that is, we will reserve it for God. For in this present world God would not have us to know all things." (Orig. in Lev., hom. 5, 9:6)
ST. CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE
"Whence comes this tradition? Does it descend from the Lord’s authority, or from the commands and epistles of the apostles? For those things are to be done which are there written. ... If it be commanded in the gospels or the epistles and Acts of the Apostles, then let this holy tradition be observed." (Ep. 74 ad Pompeium)
ST. ATHANASIUS OF ALEXANDRIA
"The Holy Scriptures, given by inspiration of God, are of themselves sufficient toward the discovery of truth." (Orat. adv. Gent., ad cap.)
ST. AMBROSE OF MILAN
"How can we use those things which we do not find in the Holy Scriptures?"(Ambr. Offic., 1:23)
ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM OF ANTIOCH AND BYZANTIUM (347-407)
"[The Scripture], ....like a safe door, denies an entrance to heretics, guarding us in safety in all things we desire, and not permitting us to be deceived. ...Whoever uses not the Scriptures, but comes in otherwise, that is, cuts out for himself a different and unlawful way, the same is a thief." (Homily 59, in Joh. 2:8)
"Formerly it might have been ascertained by various means which was the true church, but at present there is no other method left for those who are willing to discover the true church of Christ but by the Scriptures alone. And why? Because heresy has all outward observances in common with her. If a man, therefore, be desirous of knowing the true church, how will he be able to do it amid so great resemblance, but by the Scriptures alone? Wherefore our Lord, foreseeing that such a great confusion of things would take place in the latter days, ordered the Christians to have recourse to nothing but the Scriptures." (Hom. 9 in in 2 Tim. 1:9)
I hate to break it to you, but these guys lived before Luther.
Really? Let's see:
ST. IRENAEUS OF LYONS (130-202)
"We have known the method of our salvation by no other means than those by whom the gospel came to us; which gospel they truly preached; but afterward, by the will of God, they delivered to us in the Scriptures, to be for the future the foundation and pillar of our faith." (Adv. H. 3:1)
"Read more diligently that gospel which is given to us by the apostles; and read more diligently the prophets, and you will find every action and the whole doctrine of our Lord preached in them." (Adv. H. 4:66)
CLEMENT OF ALEXANDRIA
"They that are ready to spend their time in the best things will not give over seeking for truth until they have found the demonstration from the Scriptures themselves." (Stromata 7:16:3)
ORIGEN
"In which (the two Testaments) every word that appertains to God may be required and discussed; and all knowledge may be understood out of them. But if anything remain which the Holy Scripture does not determine, no other third Scripture ought to be received for authorizing any knowledge or doctrine; but that which remains we must commit to the fire, that is, we will reserve it for God. For in this present world God would not have us to know all things." (Orig. in Lev., hom. 5, 9:6)
ST. CYPRIAN OF CARTHAGE
"Whence comes this tradition? Does it descend from the Lord’s authority, or from the commands and epistles of the apostles? For those things are to be done which are there written. ... If it be commanded in the gospels or the epistles and Acts of the Apostles, then let this holy tradition be observed." (Ep. 74 ad Pompeium)
ST. ATHANASIUS OF ALEXANDRIA
"The Holy Scriptures, given by inspiration of God, are of themselves sufficient toward the discovery of truth." (Orat. adv. Gent., ad cap.)
ST. AMBROSE OF MILAN
"How can we use those things which we do not find in the Holy Scriptures?"(Ambr. Offic., 1:23)
ST. JOHN CHRYSOSTOM OF ANTIOCH AND BYZANTIUM (347-407)
"[The Scripture], ....like a safe door, denies an entrance to heretics, guarding us in safety in all things we desire, and not permitting us to be deceived. ...Whoever uses not the Scriptures, but comes in otherwise, that is, cuts out for himself a different and unlawful way, the same is a thief." (Homily 59, in Joh. 2:8)
"Formerly it might have been ascertained by various means which was the true church, but at present there is no other method left for those who are willing to discover the true church of Christ but by the Scriptures alone. And why? Because heresy has all outward observances in common with her. If a man, therefore, be desirous of knowing the true church, how will he be able to do it amid so great resemblance, but by the Scriptures alone? Wherefore our Lord, foreseeing that such a great confusion of things would take place in the latter days, ordered the Christians to have recourse to nothing but the Scriptures." (Hom. 9 in in 2 Tim. 1:9)
I hate to break it to you, but these guys lived before Luther.
Why do you believe He would make people suffer for so many centuries?
The earliest Christians had the Apostles. After that it was written down..to say they would suffer because they couldn't read limits God.. they didn't need 'traditions' for instruction....they just needed pastors and teachers, so hardly suffering. The real suffering comes in when false biblical teaching such as the papacy and sinlessness of Mary is presented as FACT and authoritative when it isn't.
Why did He wait so long in the first place? Why didn't He just have Jesus born of Adam and nip the whole nine yards in the bud? What of the eons prior to Christ?
The ONLY “extra-biblical teaching” discussed on this thread is the 16th Century invention of sola scriptura.
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Boy that’s unmitigated hogwash.
Seems like on every RC post of more than 2-3 lines, there’s some UNBIBLICAL, HISTORICALLY INACCURATE, ILLOGICAL FALSEHOOD.