[Uncle Chip]

"I would not believe in the Gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not influence me to do so." St. Augustine of Hippo (Church Father), Against the letter of Mani, 5, 6, 397 A.D.

Your quote proves the point. Even in this well-worn quote, Augustine admits that his faith was "in the Gospel" not the Catholic Church -- which was merely an "influence". In matters of importance, he deferred to the writings of the apostles --

[Titanites]

Your quote proves the point.

Yes, it proves my point that you were wrong. You claimed that unanimously all the Church Father believed the Scriptures to be solely authoritative. Augustine believed the Catholic Church also had authority.

Even in this well-worn quote, Augustine admits that his faith was "in the Gospel" not the Catholic Church.

We were talking about authority, not faith. Augustine clearly states that the Catholic Church has aurhority, not solely the Scriptures.

[Quix]

Your quote proves the point. Even in this well-worn quote, Augustine admits that his faith was “in the Gospel” not the Catholic Church — which was merely an “influence”. In matters of importance, he deferred to the writings of the apostles —

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THANKFULLY,

some of them

occasionally got it right

IN SPITE of themselves.