To: Petronski
This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death"...... If united here means "combined with" it makes no sense. Is it alleged was she a goddess until Christ's death? Of course not; your suggestion produces a nonsensical result. Uh no. The catechism specifically says, 'union of the mother WITH the Son IN THE WORK OF SALVATION.....' making Mary part of the salvation process. The only way that is possible is to make her GOD. If you can't see that, I can't help you.
However, since united here means "harmonious mutual action, cooperation" it makes perfect sense
No, my defintion makes perfect sense, its yours that doesn't. Again, harmonious MUTUAL action, COOPERATION....only makes sense if both were God. There can be no harmonious mutual action or cooperation if one isn't God. Again, if you can't see that I can't help you.
To: conservativegramma
...The only way that is possible is to make her GOD. If you can't see that, I can't help you....You are pulling the paragraph out of the context of the Catechism and distorting it to fit a conclusion you'd probably already drawn. I CAN see that.
Nonetheless, despite your spin and exegetical gyrations, Catholic teaching does not make Mary a deity, neither explicitly nor by effect.
1,185 posted on
05/06/2008 4:51:32 PM PDT by
Petronski
(When there's no more room in hell, the dead will walk the earth, voting for Hillary.)
To: conservativegramma; Petronski
Uh no. The catechism specifically says, 'union of the mother WITH the Son IN THE WORK OF SALVATION.....' making Mary part of the salvation process. The only way that is possible is to make her GOD. If you can't see that, I can't help you. Yes, it says that she was in union with Him in His work of Salvation. It DOES NOT say that she is a "co-savior" or anything else you may extrapolate from your misinterpretation of the Catechism.
1,186 posted on
05/06/2008 4:51:43 PM PDT by
wagglebee
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To: conservativegramma
The catechism specifically says, 'union of the mother WITH the Son IN THE WORK OF SALVATION.....' making Mary part of the salvation process. The only way that is possible is to make her GOD. If you can't see that, I can't help you. Mary had to be God in order to become the mother of Jesus?
That's an interesting theory.
Mary was part of the salvation process. How can you deny that?
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