Protestants and Sola Scriptura

Catholic Net ^ | George Sim Johnston

[Mad Dawg]

In Christ, all the saints are higher than the angels. (I thought that was not argued about. Oh my.)

[wagglebee]

That’s what I always thought and I was unaware that Protestants felt differently.

[Mad Dawg]

Thanks. I hate the sight of blood, especially my own. I’ll stay away from that puppy.

[papertyger]

Are you starting to notice a pattern with your criticisms of Catholic faith and practice yet?

[Titanites]

I do not see conflict wrt salvation within the Protestant denominations. Perhaps you could be more specific.

Surely you know that that some Protestants believe there are people predestined for hell while others believe in free will; some believe you must be baptised to be saved while others believe baptism is only symbolic; some believe you must only believe while others believe you must also live your faith; some say you can sin boldly, etc.

I don't deny that result, but that was not the intent.

Not the intent? So, Martin Luther accidentally started his own church. Jean Cauvin accidentally started his?

[Petronski]

Thank you for confirming that He CAN turn the Eucharist and Wine into His Body and Blood and that He CAN protect His mother from sin from the moment of conception and He CAN give one of His Disciples the Keys of Heaven.

Not to mention saving the thief on the cross without baptism though it is required for the rest of us.

[Mad Dawg]

We need some info, here. We papists (and it used to be true of Piskies back when the Episcopal Church believed something specific) think that in Christ all the saints are "higher" than the angels. Mary, being in Christ would be "brighter than the Seraphim// More glorious than the Cherubim" as the hymn ( a paraphrase of St, Francis ) has it, but because the saints are "in Christ" they all are higher as He is higher.

Your thoughts please?

[Titanites]

There she is...

There who is? All that Catholics see are inanimate objects. Since we don't worship inanimate objects like statues, we aren't concerned about which statue is bigger, or where it is placed. We leave that for you non-Catholics to worry about.

[Fichori]

If God is bound to live by the commands he gave to man, but does not.

Does that not make him a sinner?

He commanded man ‘thou shalt not kill’.

Yet the bible has many accounts of God killing people.

And in The Revelation, he claims he will continue.

[Petronski]

(psst: what’s a “Crevo debate”?)

[Mad Dawg]

I don't know about Cauvin, but I think at first Luther didn't mean an irrevocable break.

I knwo the Wesley boys didn't at first intend to break with the C of E, but when they got enough resistane they, as I was told, reluctantly began ordaining ministers.

So it wouldn't surprise me if that weren't often how it started. "I REALLY disagree with you about this or that but I'd like for us to work it out," And only later "Okay, that's it, I'm outta here."

[wagglebee]

The thief also NEVER read the New Testament (of course neither did 99%+ of Christians prior to the late 15th Century).

[Petronski]

Where did I quote you?

[Fichori]

I was only referring to Matthew 22:30

[papertyger]

If God is bound to live by the commands he gave to man, but does not. Does that not make him a sinner? He commanded man ‘thou shalt not kill’. Yet the bible has many accounts of God killing people. And in The Revelation, he claims he will continue.

All I asked for was a Scriptural reference.

After all, you condemn using science to investigate God, and philosophy IS a science. Your answer is nothing if not a philosophical postulate.

[Petronski]

Lies, all of them.

False, as has been demonstrated to you over and over again. Perhaps that reality conflicts with sola Cauvin or sola Machen but I do not care. Traditions of Errant Men are of no concern to me.

[Mad Dawg]

LOL!

How did you get that picture. I thought my homies had taken every record of Mad Dawg morphing into Wuss Dawg out of circulation.

My boys will be over at your place. Would prefer having your knees broken with an aluminum bat or the traditional Louisville Slugger?

[Fichori]

"In Christ, all the saints are higher than the angels. (I thought that was not argued about. Oh my.)"

Well, here is what John had to say on the subject:

Then saith he unto me, See [thou do it] not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

John 22:9

[Petronski]

;OP

[Fichori]

"Creation vs. evolution, threads that make ANY Catholic vs. Protestant thread look civil."

I thought it was the other way around.

Oh well.