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To: fortheDeclaration
Exactly as the Bible teaches. (Eph.2:8-9)

Eph.2:8-9 is not "the Bible," it is part of the Bible.

That passage concerns works of the law, and Paul is right: circumcision is not necessary for salvation; the uncircumcised gentiles of Ephesus are just as saved through Christ as the circumcised Jews.

1,297 posted on 05/20/2008 2:58:16 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
[Exactly as the Bible teaches. (Eph.2:8-9)]

Eph.2:8-9 is not "the Bible," it is part of the Bible.

It is what the Bible teaches since it states very clearly that works are not necessary for salvation

NOT of works, lest anyman should boast.(Eph.2:9).

That passage concerns works of the law, and Paul is right: circumcision is not necessary for salvation; the uncircumcised gentiles of Ephesus are just as saved through Christ as the circumcised Jews.

Both Jew and Gentile are saved by the same faith WITHOUT works.

[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) [6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: [7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. [8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: [9] Not of works, lest any man should boast. [10] For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. [11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; [12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: [13] But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. [14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; [15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

1,308 posted on 05/21/2008 4:01:05 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: Petronski; Dr. Eckleburg
That passage concerns works of the law, and Paul is right: circumcision is not necessary for salvation; the uncircumcised gentiles of Ephesus are just as saved through Christ as the circumcised Jews.

Even the Roman Catholic Comments on Eph.2:8-9 deny what you are saying about it referring to Jewish Law.

8 For by grace you are saved through faith: and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God. 9 Not of works, that no man may glory.

Comment- Not of works... as of our own growth, or from ourselves; but as from the grace of God. (emphasis added).

http://www.newadvent.org/bible/eph002.htm

My goodness that sounds PROTESTANT!

1,324 posted on 05/22/2008 4:41:27 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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